Author Topic: Important issues facing society (Read 4587 times)

Hope · « **on:** July 12, 2015, 04:16:29 PM »

The recent UK Budget included a number of issues, some of which I have included in the poll. I have a further question in mind, but before I pose it, I'd like to see what others believe to be the most pressing issues, out of the ones I've chosen, that face the UK at present.

BashfulAnthony · « **Reply #1 on:** July 12, 2015, 04:19:46 PM »

You surely have to include health, which affects us all so critically, and because the Health Service is in such difficulty.

Anchorman · « **Reply #2 on:** July 12, 2015, 04:27:46 PM »

You should include the constitution or even existance of the 'uk'
Most of those named issues are not UK wide issues, but devolved matters, and therefore not subject to UK legislation.

Rhiannon · « **Reply #3 on:** July 12, 2015, 04:31:29 PM »

I can't vote. It seems to me that you can't divide education from employment, or employment from health, or health from housing.

And you don't mention sustainability or community.

BashfulAnthony · « **Reply #4 on:** July 12, 2015, 04:32:28 PM »

Quote from: Rhiannon on July 12, 2015, 04:31:29 PM

I can't vote. It seems to me tgat you can't divide education from employment, or employment from health, or health from housing.

Unfortunately, the Government doesn't see it your way! But to be fair, any Government has to prioritise; it's just a matter of whether they do so in an objective and informed, and sympathetic, manner.

Rhiannon · « **Reply #5 on:** July 12, 2015, 04:32:52 PM »

Quote from: BashfulAnthony on July 12, 2015, 04:32:28 PM

Quote from: Rhiannon on July 12, 2015, 04:31:29 PM
I can't vote. It seems to me tgat you can't divide education from employment, or employment from health, or health from housing.

Unfortunately, the Government doesn't see it your way!

When has it ever?

Hope · « **Reply #6 on:** July 12, 2015, 04:33:30 PM »

May I start by apologising. I thought I'd set the poll to permit 2 votes but it seems that I haven't!! Despite having been here for several years, this is the first poll I've ever set up!! I've asked the Mods to amend this - I don't seem to able to do so.

To answer Jim's post, all the issues in the poll impact on all parts of the UK. This has nothing to do with legislation, devolved or otherwise; it has to do with social issues that impact on each one of us.

Once the Mods have corrected the mechanics of the poll, I'll reset all votes to zero and get all who have voted to re-vote.

Nearly Sane · « **Reply #7 on:** July 12, 2015, 04:35:09 PM »

Just seems like a random and not particularly thought out set of choices. Suggest you add 2 others and ask people what they might be.

BashfulAnthony · « **Reply #8 on:** July 12, 2015, 04:35:24 PM »

Quote from: Hope on July 12, 2015, 04:33:30 PM

May I start by apologising. I thought I'd set the poll to permit 2 votes but it seems that I haven't!! Despite having been here for several years, this is the first poll I've ever set up!!

To answer Jim's post...

I voted for two??

Anchorman · « **Reply #9 on:** July 12, 2015, 04:35:58 PM »

Quote from: Hope on July 12, 2015, 04:33:30 PM

May I start by apologising. I thought I'd set the poll to permit 2 votes but it seems that I haven't!! Despite having been here for several years, this is the first poll I've ever set up!!

To answer Jim's post, all the issues in the poll impact on all parts of the UK. This has nothing to do with legislation, devolved or otherwise; it has to do with social issues that impact on each one of us.

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However, different governments approach certain issues on the list in different ways, and with different degrees of power.

Rhiannon · « **Reply #10 on:** July 12, 2015, 04:36:06 PM »

Moderator:

Hopefully that should work for two votes now.

BashfulAnthony · « **Reply #11 on:** July 12, 2015, 04:37:20 PM »

Quote from: Rhiannon on July 12, 2015, 04:36:06 PM

Moderator:

Hopefully that should work for two votes now.

Can I vote again, if my "health" vote was not recorded?

Rhiannon · « **Reply #12 on:** July 12, 2015, 04:37:49 PM »

Give it a go and see.

wigginhall · « **Reply #13 on:** July 12, 2015, 04:39:05 PM »

I don't think poverty was mentioned, which it seems, is about to increase under Osborne's measures. For example, the IFS estimates that 3 million families will lose £1000 a year.

Hope · « **Reply #14 on:** July 12, 2015, 04:39:34 PM »

It now allows for 2 votes so I've reset the counts to zero

BashfulAnthony · « **Reply #15 on:** July 12, 2015, 04:41:40 PM »

Quote from: Hope on July 12, 2015, 04:39:34 PM

It now allows for 2 votes so I've reset the counts to zero

I've voted for "health," but it won't let me have another one!!

Hope · « **Reply #16 on:** July 12, 2015, 04:42:23 PM »

A number of people have mentioned that X or Y ought to have been included. My original list was about 20 issues long, so I decided to restrict the options to those things that either lead to something like poverty (see wiggi's post) or are overarching issues - so constitutional issues and the like are too specialised for my purposes.

floo · « **Reply #17 on:** July 12, 2015, 04:43:06 PM »

The national debt and health are the most important, imo.

BashfulAnthony · « **Reply #18 on:** July 12, 2015, 04:43:17 PM »

Quote from: wigginhall on July 12, 2015, 04:39:05 PM

I don't think poverty was mentioned, which it seems, is about to increase under Osborne's measures. For example, the IFS estimates that 3 million families will lose £1000 a year.

Unfortunately, the sainted George, does not accept any estimates he doesn't like.

Hope · « **Reply #19 on:** July 12, 2015, 04:44:33 PM »

Quote from: BashfulAnthony on July 12, 2015, 04:41:40 PM

Quote from: Hope on July 12, 2015, 04:39:34 PM
It now allows for 2 votes so I've reset the counts to zero

I've voted for "health," but it won't let me have another one!!

It allowed me two votes. Perhaps its got a mind of its own and assumes He and alth are two options

Nearly Sane · « **Reply #20 on:** July 12, 2015, 04:44:56 PM »

And it is none of the above from me, twice

Anchorman · « **Reply #21 on:** July 12, 2015, 04:45:33 PM »

Quote from: Hope on July 12, 2015, 04:42:23 PM

A number of people have mentioned that X or Y ought to have been included. My original list was about 20 issues long, so I decided to restrict the options to those things that either lead to something like poverty (see wiggi's post) or are overarching issues - so constitutional issues and the like are too specialised for my purposes.

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However, surely the government's austerity policies - which have driven many disabled people to suicide - are indicators of the direction in which they wish the 'uk' to go, and are therefore relevent to any list?

Hope · « **Reply #22 on:** July 12, 2015, 04:54:12 PM »

Quote from: Anchorman on July 12, 2015, 04:45:33 PM

However, surely the government's austerity policies - which have driven many disabled people to suicide - are indicators of the direction in which they wish the 'uk' to go, and are therefore relevent to any list?

Jim, I've tried to go for issues that can be thought of - though aren't necessarily - as underlying many of the issues that other posters have raised. However, I'll add a 10th option - None of the above

Hope · « **Reply #23 on:** July 12, 2015, 05:04:36 PM »

Quote from: Nearly Sane on July 12, 2015, 04:35:09 PM

Just seems like a random and not particularly thought out set of choices. Suggest you add 2 others and ask people what they might be.

NS, as I've already said, I've thought this out pretty carefully. I have trimmed down my original list, and used topics that we have discussed on the board over the past couple of months (though not all of them) for reasons I've already outlined.

I don't have a particular pair of issues in mind, but am hoping that 2 out of 5 or 6 will come out at the top. Once the poll ends I have a follow-up thread in mind, which I won't explain now.

Nearly Sane · « **Reply #24 on:** July 12, 2015, 05:23:09 PM »

Quote from: Hope on July 12, 2015, 05:04:36 PM

Quote from: Nearly Sane on July 12, 2015, 04:35:09 PM
Just seems like a random and not particularly thought out set of choices. Suggest you add 2 others and ask people what they might be.
NS, as I've already said, I've thought this out pretty carefully. I have trimmed down my original list, and used topics that we have discussed on the board over the past couple of months (though not all of them) for reasons I've already outlined.

I don't have a particular pair of issues in mind, but am hoping that 2 out of 5 or 6 will come out at the top. Once the poll ends I have a follow-up thread in mind, which I won't explain now.

Might suggest that saying you have thought about carefully is only true for you and since you are asking about others it's a bit fatuous. Apparently fox hunting which is devolved for Scotland is overarching but the constitution isn't. As Lionel Bart would have it I think you better think it out again

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