Twenty Lancashire councillors quit Labour in leadership protest

[Nearly Sane]

Quite incredible

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-lancashire-68707225

[jeremyp]

Quite incredible

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-lancashire-68707225

Sometimes I think some Labour people want to be in perpetual opposition.

[Nearly Sane]

Sometimes I think some Labour people want to be in perpetual opposition.

And, of course, Owen Jones left Labour last week. Starmer must be gutted

[jeremyp]

And, of course, Owen Jones left Labour last week. Starmer must be gutted

I didn't know that. Expect a bump in their polling.

[Nearly Sane]

I didn't know that. Expect a bump in their polling.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/other/owen-jones-quits-labour-to-back-new-movement-supporting-greens-and-independents/ar-BB1kgZ6P

[ProfessorDavey]

Sometimes I think some Labour people want to be in perpetual opposition.

Yup - I met a load of them when I became a Labour activist in the mid 90s. Rather than wanting to be in government so that they could actually change things (which is often messy and requires a level of political compromise to gain and retain sufficient electoral support to be in government), they far preferred to be in opposition, complaining from the by-lines as long as they could retain the purity of their ideologies. And in doing so help no-one.

In my constituency - one that elected a Labour MP (and an old school left wing one to boot) in 1997, for the first time since 1945 - what did they do? Many resigned and joined the Socialist Workers Party so they could 'change things' by handing out leaflets in the City centre on a Saturday!!!

[Aruntraveller]

Sometimes I think some Labour people want to be in perpetual opposition.

There is definitely an element of that with some people.

As to O.J. I've cried myself to sleep every night since he announced this.

[jeremyp]

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/other/owen-jones-quits-labour-to-back-new-movement-supporting-greens-and-independents/ar-BB1kgZ6P

Ah, Carla Denyer. She will be one of my voting options at the next general election. She is responsible for more junk mail through my letterbox than Domino's Pizza, which I find a little ironic, given she is the Green Party candidate.