Campus killing lays bare America's bloody and broken politics

[Aruntraveller]

He was murdered. Nothing in what he says gives any support to that. He didn't support murder and your post just makes it even more like you want to imply that he did.

He gave support to the idea that a number of gun deaths was a price worth paying. Fine, he paid that price. I'm sorry he did. But it was his own view on the issue.

Please do not accuse me of saying things I haven't said.

[Nearly Sane]

EDIT: I probably won't respond further as it appears we are reading the statement in fundamentally different ways, I apparently can no more see your pov than you can mine.

Fair enough

[Nearly Sane]

He gave support to the idea that a number of gun deaths was a price worth paying. Fine, he paid that price. I'm sorry he did. But it was his own view on the issue.

Please do not accuse me of saying things I haven't said.

Then don't make statements that state that what happened was something he supported

[Aruntraveller]

Then don't make statements that state that what happened was something he supported

He supported the idea that a number of gun deaths was a price worth paying.

Fucks sake this isn't complicated. He did support it.

I really am out of this discussion now. We should be concentrating on the hate he propogated not this merry go round of misunderstanding.

[Nearly Sane]

He supported the idea that a number of gun deaths was a price worth paying.

Fucks sake this isn't complicated. He did support it.

I really am out of this discussion now. We should be concentrating on the hate he propogated not this merry go round of misunderstanding.

He really didn't support murder. Murder was what happened. I think we should be concentrating on the murder.

[Nearly Sane]

Another good Americast on the murder of Kirk


https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/w3ct7t5x

Interestingly the previous Americast was on another murder, that of Iryna Zarutska,  but it plays as a companion piece in terms of how so much is politicised.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p0m20qqr

[Nearly Sane]

Reasonable stuff from Obama.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c9dxge2ep4xo

[Nearly Sane]

The 'spectrum of opinion' seems pretty narrow here

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c203n52x1y9o

[Nearly Sane]

If the conditions laid out are correct, it surely makes it impossible for Kimmel to comply with, and is surely a form of enforced speech, particularly as regards the donation


https://www.msn.com/en-us/tv/news/jimmy-kimmel-told-apologise-and-donate-to-charlie-kirks-family-to-get-show-back/ar-AA1MSomk

[Aruntraveller]

When Star Trek used to be good:

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These people need to take their meds.

https://x.com/RpsAgainstTrump/status/1968837677404357011?s=19

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These people need to take their meds.

https://x.com/RpsAgainstTrump/status/1968837677404357011?s=19

https://x.com/RightWingWatch/status/1968697692487315694?s=19

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Lots of cringe memes of Kirk in heaven by his supporters. This is the best reply to them though.👇

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https://x.com/RightWingWatch/status/1968697692487315694?s=19

https://x.com/patriottakes/status/1968750741377384502?s=19

[Nearly Sane]

Ffs!

https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/oklahoma-republican-files-bill-mandate-195100869.html

[Gordon]

Ffs!

https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/oklahoma-republican-files-bill-mandate-195100869.html

Utterly nuts.

[Nearly Sane]

Wow, Ted Cruz being the voice of half reason

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c1kwzgrwdd0o

[Nearly Sane]

Saint Charlie

https://abcnews.go.com/US/senate-passes-national-day-remembrance-charlie-kirk/story

[Nearly Sane]

Bill Maher doing an excellent job of shafting everyone


https://youtu.be/azImh7_LcJ4?si=kt_UMC6dOj3MK_PD

[Nearly Sane]

Ezra Klein dealing with the backlash from some on the US 'left' on his suggestion that they need a Charlie Kirk of their own


https://www.msn.com/en-us/politics/general/ezra-klein-hits-back-at-critics-who-accused-him-of-whitewashing-charlie-kirk/ar-AA1MKeLN

[Nearly Sane]

"The president then said he disagreed with Kirk on one thing. "He did not hate his opponents, he wanted the best for them," he said, prompting some laughs. "That's where I disagree with Charlie. I hate my opponents and I don't want what's best for them.""

So the President of the US openly states that he does not want the best for half of the US.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ckgee0x9p40o

[Nearly Sane]

While the beatification of Kirk by the right is nauseating, this from Brad Polombo, following on from comments by Bill Maher, strikes a cord. Had a left wing commentator being murdered like Kirk, the Emmy's would have been a tribute to them. Instead thete was no mention of Kirk's murder.


https://youtu.be/9DO1YcNeA4Q?si=xMwpi_GjjX-D4wWN

[Nearly Sane]

And more good stuff from Bill Maher


https://youtu.be/FC1LrSASL8Y?si=GuP1WmrM-uOJISQZ

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A couple of days old but...👇

[Nearly Sane]

A couple of days old but...👇

Which to an extent ties in  with the last Bill Maher bit I put up but that is behaviour being shown by both sides. Those supporting Trump though create the additional worry of being in power.