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I love maths.
I also love ornothology.
When I do both together I like to call that Owlgebra.

I'll get my coat.....

Oh dear! ;D

A six month old baby couldn't be any worse at Maths than I am . I can just about managed 1+1, but require a calculator for anything else.
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Yes a classic. But Bryan really should have washed his hair.

https://youtu.be/XCzhAeukF1A
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Christian Topic / Re: Searching for GOD...
« Last post by Alan Burns on Today at 04:48:20 PM »

I know you can't - but either that is because of blind faith, in which case admit it, or it's because you think my argument is flawed, in which case argue against it.

Your argument is obviously flawed.
If everything is entirely predetermined by past events, there can be no concept of conscious freedom to choose.  If something is entirely predetermined, it can be nothing but an unavoidable reaction.  Our freedom to make consciously driven choices must have a definable source which has the freedom to determine the choice.  But in an entirely physically controlled scenario there can be no such source.
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Christian Topic / Re: Searching for GOD...
« Last post by jjohnjil on Today at 04:47:15 PM »
jjohnjil,
Just to save repeating lots of things I have already posted, here is a link to the thee page article I had published in Mensa magazine which should answer some of your points:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/135283340@N03/albums/72157699355958882
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Alan

Thanks for the article but, having read it, I tells me that you attribute the human ability to make choices to something that cannot be investigated and ignore all the research that is going on, including in your own field - computers.  Stephen Hawking said he envisaged computers outdoing the human brain within 100 years and I agree with that view.

 To say that you can't understand how something works and so attribute it to something that you also can't understand seems to me to be going down a one-way street to nowhere.  Some ancients attributed thunder to the wrath of Thor, precisely because they didn't understand it.  As they had no way of investigating Thor, someone defied those religious beliefs and began studying the phenomenon itself and got to the truth - that's what experts in the brain are doing all over the world.

This is why I believe religions, of all varieties, stifle research, simply because they are happy to put everything that is a complete mystery at the moment down to God.  All the great thinkers of yesteryear were persecuted for even suggesting that there were other explanations to be had, but through their perseverance we have made giant leaps forward.

So try to look at the problem, without jumping on an unevidenced explanation for it, and you may see things differently. 






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Just a weak snide joke. Not clever or witty.
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Our favourite local pin up girl.

https://youtu.be/6xckBwPdo1c
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Christian Topic / Re: Searching for GOD...
« Last post by Gabriella on Today at 03:57:14 PM »
Gabriella,

I posted the texts because they so well describe what Vlad (and to a lesser extent you) actually do. His behaviour has been described. That he clearly revels in his modus operandi doesn't mean that others fall for it though.   
You are entitled to your opinion. Others are available. You didn't explain how you got from Vlad stating some posters are obsessed by his posts to him 'clearly' revelling in anything. Maybe he was being ironic. Anyway, it doesn't matter anymore as there are more interesting topics to discuss - we'll just have to disagree on this.
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Christian Topic / Re: Searching for GOD...
« Last post by bluehillside Retd. on Today at 03:53:54 PM »
AB,

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I do not live in the past.

Yes you do. We all do. The moment you try to freeze time into a "present" time has passed.

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Whatever physical events I consciously invoke to facilitate my chosen actions take place in my conscious present.

But your "conscious present" as you put it isn't an actual present, any more than your "conscious touching the keyboard" is actually touching the keyboard.

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I live and exist in my conscious present, as do my thoughts, words and actions -...

You might "live in it" as a matter of perception, but if you thought about it you'd grasp that there's actually a deeper reality at play.

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...none of which are random, neither are they entirely predetermined by the past.

What third option do you propose? 
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Christian Topic / Re: Searching for GOD...
« Last post by Stranger on Today at 03:53:18 PM »
Whatever physical events I consciously invoke to facilitate my chosen actions take place in my conscious present.
I live and exist in my conscious present, as do my thoughts, words and actions...

Meaningless waffle. No action or word can exist in "the present" for reasons already outlined and which you have just ignored.

...none of which are random, neither are they entirely predetermined by the past.

That is a self-contradictory statement.

Why are you simply ignoring what has been said to you about this? If you disagree, then why aren't you engaging with what has been presented to you?

It is not that I have forgotten any of your replies.  I just can't agree with your concept of a freedom which is entirely predetermined by past events.

I know you can't - but either that is because of blind faith, in which case admit it, or it's because you think my argument is flawed, in which case argue against it.

What do you think the point is of just ignoring what has been said to you and continuing to repeat your assertions without any supporting evidence or arguments?
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