Alan, with reference to your post 37975:
As I have previously pointed out many times, you cannot presume to know that non physical causes must be subject to the same time dependent cause and effect chains as physically controlled reactions.
What on earth do you mean by 'time dependent'? If effects came before causes, the world would be extremely confusing, literally running backwards. If effects had no time relation to causes, then the world would be chaotic.
And the other aspect of the word "physical" is that by implication a physically generated event will just be an uncontrollable reaction subject to the laws of physics.
Nope, anything subject to the laws of physics is not 'uncontrollable', it is controlled by the laws of physics.
We can have no control over the laws of physics, but conscious control does emanate from the human mind.
I agree that both consciousness and control emanate from the human mind, which, itself, is a product of the human brain. If you take the view that we are our brains then the 'we' becomes meaningless in your sentence.
You need to honestly ask yourself if you are just an inevitable consequence of physically defined chains of reactions, or could there be something else beyond these limitations to enable the freedom we all perceive to be a reality.
I don't see myself as 'just' anything, Alan. The idea that I am my brain, and that this brain produces immeasurable physical reactions(or interactions) makes good sense to me, especially in light of the vast and increasing knowledge of its capabilities and limitations. Could there be something else? Possibly, but without explaining how it functions(including how to get over the logic of determined/random choice), where it is located, how it interacts with the physical brain or even producing evidence that it actually exists, then that's all it remains, a possibility.
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