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Walt Zingmatilder

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Re: Here's The Plan We Should Be Following.
« Reply #100 on: July 04, 2016, 06:24:19 PM »
::) Oh dear!!!

Firstly, he is not in power so what do you expect him to do? Secondly, there is talk that he will be playing some kind of advisory role with Leadsom's government, should she win. So he is quite willing to take part in the negotiations in some manner, and as you say, clear up the shit that the EU has imposed on us for the last three decades or so - when Maastricht was introduced.
So let me get this straight. It will be a city elite, with a banker Prime minister who will represent Brexitters who voted for it to hurt the establishment.

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« Reply #101 on: July 05, 2016, 07:12:11 PM »
Dear Jackie Boy,

Well Leadsom is not going to win, to me it looks like May all the way, and now that he has stepped down as the UKIP leader ( his job is done ) could you be a pal and write to him and ask him to stand down as a MEP, after all his job is done ;)

Gonnagle.
You should know better than assume something about politics. May is not guaranteed and Leadsom has a good chance of winning, being a Leaver.

Farage is going to stay at the EP to check that the EU aren't stitching up our negotiations, and may even be advising them. The job isn't done until it is all signed and delivered to our satisfaction - so at least two years. Then he'll become an MP..... ;D

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« Reply #102 on: July 05, 2016, 07:20:03 PM »
You should know better than assume something about politics. May is not guaranteed and Leadsom has a good chance of winning, being a Leaver.

Farage is going to stay at the EP to check that the EU aren't stitching up our negotiations, and may even be advising them. The job isn't done until it is all signed and delivered to our satisfaction - so at least two years. Then he'll become an MP..... ;D
Farage is a banker (rhyming slang) and a craven coward. He needs to fuck off right now. Thousands of people are going to lose their jobs in the forthcoming recession, but Farage will be sitting pretty with his bankers money and his EU salary watching the destruction of the UK and united Europe.

There are no words to describe the contempt he deserves.
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« Reply #103 on: July 05, 2016, 07:21:21 PM »
So let me get this straight. It will be a city elite, with a banker Prime minister who will represent Brexitters who voted for it to hurt the establishment.
Stranger things have happened...

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« Reply #104 on: July 05, 2016, 07:24:25 PM »
Farage is a banker (rhyming slang) and a craven coward. He needs to fuck off right now. Thousands of people are going to lose their jobs in the forthcoming recession, but Farage will be sitting pretty with his bankers money and his EU salary watching the destruction of the UK and united Europe.

There are no words to describe the contempt he deserves.
You again...

So many assumptions there all topped off with venom and bile.

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« Reply #105 on: July 05, 2016, 07:27:22 PM »
You again...
Yep. You can't deny your beloved leader has deserted the bridge and yet he is still claiming his MEP salary. The man has no integrity.

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So many assumptions there all topped off with venom and bile.
He's resigned his position as UKIP leader- yes or no?
He's still claiming his MEP salary despite being utterly opposed to the EU - yes or no?

The man is a charlatan, a cheat and a rogue. He's the biggest turd in British politics.
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« Reply #106 on: July 05, 2016, 07:56:16 PM »
Stranger things have happened...
argumentum ad aphorism

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« Reply #107 on: July 05, 2016, 07:58:05 PM »
Yep. You can't deny your beloved leader has deserted the bridge and yet he is still claiming his MEP salary. The man has no integrity.
He's resigned his position as UKIP leader- yes or no?
He's still claiming his MEP salary despite being utterly opposed to the EU - yes or no?

The man is a charlatan, a cheat and a rogue. He's the biggest turd in British politics.
He has a job to do in the EP to see we get the best deal and provide information etc. to the UK negotiation team. It is not over until all is signed and delivered to our satisfaction. Jeremy, calm down, you can't get to me all looks fine in the Leave camp.  ;D

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« Reply #108 on: July 05, 2016, 08:02:43 PM »
He has a job to do in the EP to see we get the best deal and provide information etc. to the UK negotiation team. It is not over until all is signed and delivered to our satisfaction. Jeremy, calm down, you can't get to me all looks fine in the Leave camp.  ;D
How often will he turn up?

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« Reply #109 on: July 05, 2016, 08:18:34 PM »
How often will he turn up?
You should know, NS, that the EP chamber is a joke. What he will be doing most of the time will be working behind the scenes, with his fellow MEPs, looking at how the negotiations are going.

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« Reply #110 on: July 05, 2016, 08:35:01 PM »
You should know, NS, that the EP chamber is a joke. What he will be doing most of the time will be working behind the scenes, with his fellow MEPs, looking at how the negotiations are going.
I was more thinking about attendance in committees but overall tell me about these negotiations and how they worked?

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« Reply #111 on: July 05, 2016, 08:58:21 PM »
Stranger things have happened...
Yes you've got Leadsom who has crashed the country touting herself as it's saviour. It don't get more bizarre than that.
Still, it pleases the axegrinders.

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« Reply #112 on: July 06, 2016, 11:32:12 AM »
He has a job to do in the EP
No he doesn't. He's a waste of a good chair in the EP.

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to see we get the best deal and provide information etc. to the UK negotiation team.
He will not get that as an MEP. For a start, he frequently doesn't bother to turn up. And when he does, do you think anybody would give hime the time day.

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It is not over until all is signed and delivered to our satisfaction. Jeremy, calm down, you can't get to me all looks fine in the Leave camp.  ;D
There are lots of empty tents in the Leave camp. You have been deserted by two out of three of your steaming Leaders.
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« Reply #113 on: July 06, 2016, 05:04:57 PM »
I was more thinking about attendance in committees but overall tell me about these negotiations and how they worked?
"Worked" - pass tense? They haven't started yet.

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« Reply #114 on: July 06, 2016, 05:13:20 PM »
"Worked" - pass tense? They haven't started yet.
So as a jobbing ( or in Nigel's case non jobbing) MEP, what negotiations will he be doing?

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« Reply #115 on: July 06, 2016, 05:24:40 PM »
So as a jobbing ( or in Nigel's case non jobbing) MEP, what negotiations will he be doing?
If you look at my #109 I said he would be observing how things are going and advising the UK team, giving them his years of experience of dealing with the EU and their bureaucratic system.

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« Reply #116 on: July 06, 2016, 05:27:49 PM »
If you look at my #109 I said he would be observing how things are going and advising the UK team, giving them his years of experience of dealing with the EU and their bureaucratic system.


Actually you referred to MEPs not the negotiating team. And this raises the question of past negotiations again. Can you outline a time when he has been involved with such negotiations?

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« Reply #117 on: July 06, 2016, 05:45:09 PM »


Actually you referred to MEPs not the negotiating team. And this raises the question of past negotiations again. Can you outline a time when he has been involved with such negotiations?
"Past" - pass tense. Yet you posts before used the term "will be" - future tense. Do you actually know what you are trying to ask?

As I said he won't be directly involved in the negotiations, but will be able to assist the UK team into the machinations of the EU system, doing so with his fellow MEPs; that is his UKIP mates.

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Re: Here's The Plan We Should Be Following.
« Reply #118 on: July 06, 2016, 06:08:47 PM »
"Past" - pass tense. Yet you posts before used the term "will be" - future tense. Do you actually know what you are trying to ask?

As I said he won't be directly involved in the negotiations, but will be able to assist the UK team into the machinations of the EU system,
Surely that only applies to someone who attended sufficient meetings with an intent other than showboating.

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« Reply #119 on: July 06, 2016, 09:18:18 PM »
If you look at my #109 I said he would be observing how things are going and advising the UK team, giving them his years of experience of dealing with the EU and their bureaucratic system.

He hasn't got any experience of dealing with the EU and their bureaucratic system, except in filling in the form to tell them which bank account to stuff full of his lovely juicy salary.

And filling in his expenses claims, of course.
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« Reply #120 on: July 07, 2016, 06:11:34 PM »
Surely that only applies to someone who attended sufficient meetings with an intent other than showboating.
What meetings are you referring to?

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« Reply #121 on: July 07, 2016, 06:16:29 PM »
He hasn't got any experience of dealing with the EU and their bureaucratic system, except in filling in the form to tell them which bank account to stuff full of his lovely juicy salary.

And filling in his expenses claims, of course.
And on what bases do you say that, other than your stupid bias?

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« Reply #122 on: July 14, 2016, 01:42:54 PM »
And on what bases do you say that, other than your stupid bias?
He's an MEP not a head of state or even government minister. The people our government has to negotiate with are other heads of state, not MEPs.

All Farage does is occasionally go to the EU parliament and rant at the officials and collect his salary for doing bugger all. He's an ex-banker with his snout in the trough.
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« Reply #123 on: July 14, 2016, 05:56:17 PM »
He's an MEP not a head of state or even government minister. The people our government has to negotiate with are other heads of state, not MEPs.

All Farage does is occasionally go to the EU parliament and rant at the officials and collect his salary for doing bugger all. He's an ex-banker with his snout in the trough.
That's your worthless opinion.  ;D

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« Reply #124 on: July 16, 2016, 06:30:25 AM »
The plan becomes clearer with Mays appointment of Johnso and trip to Scotland.

U.K. From the outside will look like Merrie England, a kind of Disney version with pearly Kings etc.

Internally the UK will be English Nationalist with England owning Scotland.

In the meantime May has nothing to offer anybody who isn't English since the car has been crashed.

Genetically disgruntled brexiteers will be allowed to persecute the remain population
As a distraction from their handiwork.
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