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New Party leaders
« on: June 30, 2016, 09:29:11 AM »
I wonder what people thing of the possibility of having Eagle and May in charge of their respective parties?  Could this see a further dramatic turn in British politics?
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Re: New Party leaders
« Reply #1 on: June 30, 2016, 09:40:56 AM »
I wonder what people thing of the possibility of having Eagle and May in charge of their respective parties?  Could this see a further dramatic turn in British politics?

All in all I thing that would be, if not actually the best, maybe the least bad result.
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« Reply #2 on: June 30, 2016, 10:04:33 AM »
Having gone from a Salmon to a Sturgeon in Scotland, is it possible that a Crab will become a Tory leader and a fish Eagle a labour leader?

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« Reply #3 on: June 30, 2016, 10:25:21 AM »
I see Gove is now going to seek election as party leader, after he apparently pledged his support for Boris the other day!!!!!!!!!!!! He did education no good at all when in charge of that department, so the UK would really be down the drain for good and all with him as PM, imo.

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« Reply #4 on: June 30, 2016, 11:03:09 AM »
I see Gove is now going to seek election as party leader, after he apparently pledged his support for Boris the other day!!!!!!!!!!!! He did education no good at all when in charge of that department, so the UK would really be down the drain for good and all with him as PM, imo.

The only good thing about that seems to be that he is likely to take Boris votes.
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Re: New Party leaders
« Reply #5 on: June 30, 2016, 11:07:13 AM »
The only good thing about that seems to be that he is likely to take Boris votes.
What if he takes so many that he wins?
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Re: New Party leaders
« Reply #6 on: June 30, 2016, 11:12:09 AM »
What if he takes so many that he wins?

I can't see the loathsome Gove getting through, but if he could nobble Boris that would be a result.
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« Reply #7 on: June 30, 2016, 11:15:23 AM »
I prefer Boris to Gove and that is really saying something!

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« Reply #8 on: June 30, 2016, 11:19:55 AM »
I prefer Boris to Gove and that is really saying something!

I think Boris is more dangerous in as much as he has the 'popular appeal' that might give him the party vote. Better if he doesn't get that far.
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« Reply #9 on: June 30, 2016, 11:24:14 AM »
I can't see the loathsome Gove getting through, but if he could nobble Boris that would be a result.

I couldn't see the loathsome Trump getting the Republican nomination, but it happened.
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« Reply #10 on: June 30, 2016, 11:27:03 AM »
I couldn't see the loathsome Trump getting the Republican nomination, but it happened.

Gove is not popular with the public, he would be a liability as leader.
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« Reply #11 on: June 30, 2016, 11:30:03 AM »
Did anyone really think he would stay in line behind Johnson? It was just a question of timing before kicking off the backstabbing.


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« Reply #12 on: June 30, 2016, 11:32:54 AM »
I suspect he has spent more time and effort in building up support from other Conservative MPs than Boris has.
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« Reply #13 on: June 30, 2016, 11:38:17 AM »
Gove is not popular with the public, he would be a liability as leader.
Trump is not popular with the American public, he would be a liability as a presidential candidate.
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« Reply #14 on: June 30, 2016, 11:40:48 AM »
Dear Madness, Madness, they call it Madness,

Will Gove steal votes from May or Johnson, Theresa May, Maggie Two the Lady who is for Turning, it all seems like some third world country stuff, the world is watching and they are having a long hard guffaw.

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« Reply #15 on: June 30, 2016, 11:41:01 AM »
Trump is not popular with the American public, he would be a liability as a presidential candidate.

Many senior Republicans don't want Trump as President.

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« Reply #16 on: June 30, 2016, 11:42:30 AM »
Trump is not popular with the American public, he would be a liability as a presidential candidate.

He won through a democratic process, so is obviously popular with a significant number of the public, and lothe him or hate him, you have to admit he has a certain charisma. Gove has all the Charisma of a dead sheep.
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« Reply #17 on: June 30, 2016, 11:44:39 AM »
Dear Madness, Madness, they call it Madness,

Will Gove steal votes from May or Johnson, Theresa May, Maggie Two the Lady who is for Turning, it all seems like some third world country stuff, the world is watching and they are having a long hard guffaw.

Gonnagle.

Actually looks like May is ahead at the moment:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/19mKbV0UnIbX_lbiinKiquP0ghiFpsMl0owUO6_TJyzI/htmlview?usp=sharing&sle=true
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« Reply #18 on: June 30, 2016, 11:45:18 AM »
He won through a democratic process,
Gove could win through a democratic process but of a much smaller proportion of the public.
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« Reply #19 on: June 30, 2016, 11:50:05 AM »
Gove could win through a democratic process but of a much smaller proportion of the public.

The final vote is likely to be with party members and I can't see him winning that - he is not popular with anyone and not really an election winner (unless the alternative is Corbyn)
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Re: New Party leaders
« Reply #20 on: June 30, 2016, 11:57:49 AM »
Boris has just said he won't stand - so no PM Boris - Hooray!

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« Reply #21 on: June 30, 2016, 12:03:53 PM »
Gove the assassin, eh?  The lady will be grinning from ear to ear (in secret). 
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« Reply #22 on: June 30, 2016, 12:09:44 PM »
Boris is no longer a contestant!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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« Reply #23 on: June 30, 2016, 12:14:56 PM »
Dear Lapsed,

That is a lovely spreadsheet, tells you a bit about me that I love excel, how did you come across it, very easy to understand and yes, where is Boris.

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« Reply #24 on: June 30, 2016, 12:16:24 PM »
Boris is spending more time with his wife.   Yeah, very likely.

There's be lots of quoting, 'he who wields the dagger, seldom wears the crown', in relation to Gove.   
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