New Cabinet

[Hope]

I thought those 17 million were all in favour of the UK parliament being sovereign - clearly not.

You beat me to it, Prof.   

[Jack Knave]

There is no such thing as Brexit light - we are either a member state of the EU or we aren't. Any settlement in which we are no longer a member of the EU is Brexit and is clearly complying with the result of the referendum that only asked whether or not we should be a member of the EU - no other question was asked.

The question was neither here nor there. What matters was what was talked about and asked for in the campaign and what came through was "control"; of immigration, of our borders, of our democracy and to be free from the undemocratic interference from Brussels. EEA and all that doesn't give us that so that should be off the table. How our political elites play this is another matter. 

[Jack Knave]

I thought those 17 million were all in favour of the UK parliament being sovereign - clearly not.

What do you mean by sovereign?

[Hope]

Interesting take on the topic on the BBC site - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-36776410

[ProfessorDavey]

What do you mean by sovereign?

That the UK parliament is able to make its own decisions and is not forced to adopt a specific position unless it choses so to do. Effectively that its hands aren't tied, unless it choses for its hands to be tied.

So had parliament chosen to make the referendum binding (which it could have done) then it would have tied its own hands. However having very clearly made the decision that the referendum is advisory is would be anathema to the notion of parliament being sovereign to imply that parliament must be bound by the referendum result.

[jeremyp]

But Brexit isn't toxic.

Have you not seen any of the reports of increased racial abuse?

Have you not seen the predictions of economic turn down that will result in many people losing their livelihoods?

Have you not seen how Scotland is desperately trying to break up the UK so they don't go down with the sinking ship that is England?

Brexit is toxic. No question at all.

Farage was never in the Tory government, Boris got stabbed by Gove and Gove was seen as a risk to the PM-ship, and Leadsom was a wee lass who looked over the parapet into the real world and wet her pants.

So all the Brexiters ran away like the cowards they are.

[jeremyp]

It is about uncoupling ourselves from an insane political project which is falling apart fast.

Unfortunately, Brexit looks inevitable. We are committed to it even though it is an insane political project and is already falling apart (all its leaders have deserted like rats).

[Jack Knave]

That the UK parliament is able to make its own decisions and is not forced to adopt a specific position unless it choses so to do. Effectively that its hands aren't tied, unless it choses for its hands to be tied.

So had parliament chosen to make the referendum binding (which it could have done) then it would have tied its own hands. However having very clearly made the decision that the referendum is advisory is would be anathema to the notion of parliament being sovereign to imply that parliament must be bound by the referendum result.

But the term sovereign applies to more than just that though which is what we were talking about - the broader application.

[Jack Knave]

Have you not seen any of the reports of increased racial abuse?

Have you not seen the predictions of economic turn down that will result in many people losing their livelihoods?

Have you not seen how Scotland is desperately trying to break up the UK so they don't go down with the sinking ship that is England?

The police say that this always happens when some national or international event triggers these type of feelings. They'll calm down soon.

Nothing is wrong (or right) about the economy etc. It (the world economy etc.) was and is pretty fucked up - you can't blame the snow flake that starts the avalanche; the mass of snow was unstable before it landed.

Oh the wee wheengeing Scoots. They are like little children running around screaming and shouting and achieving nothing. When they see what independence means they'll sit down and be quiet.

So all the Brexiters ran away like the cowards they are.

The only real coward was Cameron who did nothing in planning ahead for a Brexit vote and then ran off once the vote came in.

[Jack Knave]

Unfortunately, Brexit looks inevitable. We are committed to it even though it is an insane political project and is already falling apart (all its leaders have deserted like rats).

Italy's banks are in need of a bailout. If they go bang so does the Euro and the EU.

Deutsche bank has failed the stress test in the last two years and the IMF are saying that they are so bad that they could fail and cause a massive global crash.

[Nearly Sane]

Boris as Foreign Secretary, ffs

[Brownie]

Hee hee, aaargh!.
I wonder if Theresa May whispered in his ear that she would have a first rate job lined up for him in the Cabinet if he dropped out of the leadership race, which I believe he was very glad to do.
Wouldn't surprise me.

[Nearly Sane]

Certainly feels like it. 'Ever get the feeling you've been cheated?'

[Hope]

Boris as Foreign Secretary, ffs

Why?  He has got to be part of the Brexit process if it is to have any validity.  She can always ditch him once the process is over!!

[Nearly Sane]

Why?  He has got to be part of the Brexit process if it is to have any validity.  She can always ditch him once the process is over!!

Because he has no principles. See his statements prior to the campaign and during it.

[Nearly Sane]

New Home Secretary was Aristocracy Coordinator  for Four Weddings and a Funeral

[Nearly Sane]

May, Hammond, and Johnson/Clarkson

[Gordon]

If  Boris is Foreign Sec. then surely there must be a cabinet post for the late Charlie Drake.

[Walt Zingmatilder]

Boris as Foreign Secretary, ffs

Is that 120 hours community service for joyriding and crashing the car?

[Brownie]

On yer bike!

[SqueakyVoice]

Fucking Boris Johnson?!

I mean, that's a hideous image at the best of times, but when he's just been made Foreign Secretary.

[Bubbles]

Boris as Foreign Secretary, ffs

I think it is a good move on her part.

I'm surprised she hasn't also appointed Andrea Leadsom and Michael Gove in other roles.
( just noticed Liam Fox is Secretary of State for International Trade )




Boris as foreign secretary is a stroke of genius, IMO

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[Hope]

Secretary of State for Exiting the EU.  What a mouthful!!

Will David Davies be responsible solely for the process of extricating the UK from the EU, or will his remit be wider and include looking at ways to ensure that the important aspects oif EU legislation that we have signed up to - for instance legislation on the environment, on equality, on diversity, on human rights, ... are properly enshrined in the UK's legislative code?

[Bubbles]

Secretary of State for Exiting the EU.  What a mouthful!!

Will David Davies be responsible solely for the process of extricating the UK from the EU, or will his remit be wider and include looking at ways to ensure that the important aspects oif EU legislation that we have signed up to - for instance legislation on the environment, on equality, on diversity, on human rights, ... are properly enshrined in the UK's legislative code?

I think he will have a wider remit and his job is probably to brainstorm possible ideas.  It frees up the others to concentrate on their own roles.

He will probably present them with a series of possibilities.

Someone will shorten the title, to "SS for EE" perhaps. Or even " The man from Ssee" 

[Hope]

I think he will have a wider remit and his job is probably to brainstorm possible ideas.  It frees up the others to concentrate on their own roles.

He will probably present them with a series of possibilities.

Someone will shorten the title, to "SS for EE" perhaps. The man from Ssee 

Could it become confused with the term SSSE's;  or (S)SOE        Apparently, and I haven't actually checked this, there are some interesting acronyms doing the rounds of Twitter, already.