If men had a nine o’clock curfew.

[Humph Warden Bennett]

Again no. they are as much a tragedy as any violence like this. But it doesn't stop the fact that men carry out more violence on both sexes.

I did not think of that when I climbed out of a window, and got in the car.

When the car started, I was very happy.

And so I drove away. For twelve hours.

So YES I do sympathise with women who have escaped from such a situation.

But the feminist idea that my experiences count for nothing because I am male?

Feminism is a crock of shit.

[Roses]

I did not think of that when I climbed out of a window, and got in the car.

When the car started, I was very happy.

And so I drove away. For twelve hours.

So YES I do sympathise with women who have escaped from such a situation.

But the feminist idea that my experiences count for nothing because I am male?

Feminism is a crock of shit.

Did you take your daughter with you?

Feminism is about equality, NOT abuse.

[Rhiannon]

I did not think of that when I climbed out of a window, and got in the car.

When the car started, I was very happy.

And so I drove away. For twelve hours.

So YES I do sympathise with women who have escaped from such a situation.

But the feminist idea that my experiences count for nothing because I am male?

Feminism is a crock of shit.

What feminist idea that what happened to you counts for nothing? Some feminists do speak shit, I’ll grant you, but so do you.

[Humph Warden Bennett]

Did you take your daughter with you?

Feminism is about equality, NOT abuse.

Grow up.

[Nearly Sane]

I did not think of that when I climbed out of a window, and got in the car.

When the car started, I was very happy.

And so I drove away. For twelve hours.

So YES I do sympathise with women who have escaped from such a situation.

But the feminist idea that my experiences count for nothing because I am male?

Feminism is a crock of shit.

I don't know any feminists who think that your experiences count for nothing because you are male. I've just asked my wife who is a feminist and she says that is not at all what her nor feminist she knows thinks. Rhiannon has made clear, as a feminist,  that it isn't what she thinks.

[Humph Warden Bennett]

What feminist idea that what happened to you counts for nothing? Some feminists do speak shit, I’ll grant you, but so do you.

How have  I written "shit"?

[Roses]

Grow up.

You silly man, it is a perfectly fair question. Surely if you needed to protect your daughter as well as yourself from your wife you wouldn't have a abandoned the child?

[Rhiannon]

You silly man, it is a perfectly fair question. Surely if you needed to protect your daughter as well as yourself from your wife you wouldn't have a abandoned the child?

Might not be any of our business, LR.

[Nearly Sane]

Did you take your daughter with you?

Feminism is about equality, NOT abuse.

I think asking questions beyond what Humph wants to say is problematic. It sounds as if you want to judge him in some way for not doing something in a situation that you have very little information about.

[Rhiannon]

How have  I written "shit"?

By saying that feminists think that what happened to you counts for nothing. This one doesn't. It's appalling.

[Nearly Sane]

You silly man, it is a perfectly fair question. Surely if you needed to protect your daughter as well as yourself from your wife you wouldn't have a abandoned the child?

Anything more than what Humph says though here isn't your business.

[ProfessorDavey]

But the feminist idea that my experiences count for nothing because I am male?

Feminism is a crock of shit.

But that isn't feminism - feminism is about equality so any genuine feminist (of whichever gender) should consider your experience to be just as important as any other experience of domestic violence. That doesn't affect the fact that women are statistically more likely to be the victims of domestic violence.

[Roses]

Anything more than what Humph says though here isn't your business.

It is fair to question him if he keeps slagging all feminists off as he appears to be doing.

[Rhiannon]

It is fair to question him if he keeps slagging all feminists off as he appears to be doing.

Not about his personal life it isn't, and certainly not involving his child. Back off.

[Steve H]

It is fair to question him if he keeps slagging all feminists off as he appears to be doing.

You won't mind us asking you highly personal questions about your childhood religious experiences, then, in the light of your continual criticism of Christianity?

[Nearly Sane]

It is fair to question him if he keeps slagging all feminists off as he appears to be doing.

It really isn't here. And your justification is a non sequitur. You have no right to pry here.

[Nearly Sane]

Just to reiterate while domestic violence is a serious subject, it's not really related in many ways to the OP.

[Humph Warden Bennett]

But that isn't feminism - feminism is about equality so any genuine feminist (of whichever gender) should consider your experience to be just as important as any other experience of domestic violence. That doesn't affect the fact that women are statistically more likely to be the victims of domestic violence.

So violence against men, and against children, means less than does violence against adult females?

[Rhiannon]

Just to reiterate while domestic violence is a serious subject, it's not really related in many ways to the OP.

As the writer of the OP, I'm happy for the discussion to carry on as it is.

[Rhiannon]

So violence against men, and against children, means less than does violence against adult females?

Most victims of murder are men at roughly a 70/30 ratio. Stating this does not mean that the murders of women count for less.

[ProfessorDavey]

So violence against men, and against children, means less than does violence against adult females?

No - where did I ever say that.

The importance of each individual incident is the same regardless of the gender of the victim.

[ProfessorDavey]

Most victims of murder are men at roughly a 70/30 ratio. Stating this does not mean that the murders of women count for less.

Exactly

[Roses]

So violence against men, and against children, means less than does violence against adult females?

ALL violence is bad whoever is the perpetrator.

[Humph Warden Bennett]

Most victims of murder are men at roughly a 70/30 ratio. Stating this does not mean that the murders of women count for less.

So now you, the feminist, are back tracking?

[Robbie]

The message you post is not always clear Humph.

However what you experienced was beyond dreadful and I know women can be violent. Very glad I haven't had that sort of thing but know it happens, also terrible bullying woman on woman in workplace.

Re Plaistow and Sundridge Park.  I don't know Plaistow but know Sundridge Park has a Waitrose,been there & children's friends lived there so occ took & picked up; I wouldn't care to live in the area, same goes for Elmstead Woods, but could be just me, that's the extent of my knowledge & I don't jog anyway. I do cycle occasionally!

You take care.

This thread has gone right off point and is horrible. Shows peoples prejudices & previous grudges - which should be left at 'the door' before posting here. Imo.