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Injured Patterdale mountain rescuer appeal raises £500,000
« on: February 17, 2021, 03:30:45 PM »
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Re: Injured Patterdale mountain rescuer appeal raises £500,000
« Reply #1 on: February 17, 2021, 03:35:22 PM »
Poor brave man. :o The idiots he went to rescue were let off far too lightly, imo. I am glad the appeal raised quite a lot of money, but it won't give him back what he has lost. :(
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Re: Injured Patterdale mountain rescuer appeal raises £500,000
« Reply #2 on: February 17, 2021, 04:10:47 PM »
Quote from: Nearly Sane on February 17, 2021, 03:30:45 PM
Good to see, dreadful situation

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cumbria-56097886
Thank you for posting. One can only hope that the two irresp[onsible campers will spend some of their spare time over the next few years doing all they can to help not only the badly injured volunteer but in raising money for the rescue service and, even better, train to become rescuers themselves.
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Re: Injured Patterdale mountain rescuer appeal raises £500,000
« Reply #3 on: February 19, 2021, 01:21:22 PM »
Quote from: Littleroses on February 17, 2021, 03:35:22 PM
The idiots he went to rescue were let off far too lightly, imo.
We can always rely on you for a dose of self-righteous vindictiveness.
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Re: Injured Patterdale mountain rescuer appeal raises £500,000
« Reply #4 on: February 19, 2021, 01:28:23 PM »
Quote from: Lord Tantamount Horseposture on February 19, 2021, 01:21:22 PM
We can always rely on you for a dose of self-righteous vindictiveness.

And we can always rely on you to make daft comments like that one. ::)
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Re: Injured Patterdale mountain rescuer appeal raises £500,000
« Reply #5 on: February 19, 2021, 01:46:30 PM »
Quote from: Lord Tantamount Horseposture on February 19, 2021, 01:21:22 PM
We can always rely on you for a dose of self-righteous vindictiveness.


Well you can include me on that list of self righteous vindictiveness then, because I agree with LR.
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Re: Injured Patterdale mountain rescuer appeal raises £500,000
« Reply #6 on: February 19, 2021, 02:04:02 PM »
Quote from: Lord Tantamount Horseposture on February 19, 2021, 01:21:22 PM
We can always rely on you for a dose of self-righteous vindictiveness.
   




I agree with LR.
I know a friend in the Glencoe MR team, and the times he's had to rescue cretins who wore shorts and trainer whilst climbing Annach Mhor or Bidian and were surprised when they ended up with broken legs ot worse, doesn't bear thinking about.
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Re: Injured Patterdale mountain rescuer appeal raises £500,000
« Reply #7 on: February 19, 2021, 02:09:27 PM »
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I agree with LR.
I know a friend in the Glencoe MR team, and the times he's had to rescue cretins who wore shorts and trainer whilst climbing Annach Mhor or Bidian and were surprised when they ended up with broken legs ot worse, doesn't bear thinking about.

I agree with you.
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Re: Injured Patterdale mountain rescuer appeal raises £500,000
« Reply #8 on: February 19, 2021, 10:56:35 PM »
The campers broke lockdown restrictions. As far as we know, they were fully equipped for camping. One of them suffered chest pains, which could happen any time any where. They got fined £200 for breaking lockdown (but they were in the wilds of Cumbria, a long wat from anyone else, so not in the same league as going to an illegal rave). What happened was a tragic accident. If it had happened two years ago, before Covid-19 and lockdown, they would presumably not have been fined at all. Let's consider the reported facts, instead of coming over all censorious.
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Re: Injured Patterdale mountain rescuer appeal raises £500,000
« Reply #9 on: February 19, 2021, 11:08:15 PM »
Quote from: Lord Tantamount Horseposture on February 19, 2021, 10:56:35 PM
The campers broke lockdown restrictions. As far as we know, they were fully equipped for camping. One of them suffered chest pains, which could happen any time any where. They got fined £200 for breaking lockdown (but they were in the wilds of Cumbria, a long wat from anyone else, so not in the same league as going to an illegal rave). What happened was a tragic accident. If it had happened two years ago, before Covid-19 and lockdown, they would presumably not have been fined at all. Let's consider the reported facts, instead of coming over all censorious.
And in rescuing them breaking the law some poor volunteer is screwed for the rest of their life but you think that is worth mocking people on
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Re: Injured Patterdale mountain rescuer appeal raises £500,000
« Reply #10 on: February 19, 2021, 11:15:58 PM »
Quote from: Nearly Sane on February 19, 2021, 11:08:15 PM
And in rescuing them breaking the law some poor volunteer is screwed for the rest of their life but you think that is worth mocking people on
What are you on about? Whom did I mock?
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Re: Injured Patterdale mountain rescuer appeal raises £500,000
« Reply #11 on: February 20, 2021, 12:22:12 AM »
I think the rescue team were brave and professional.

The accident could have happened at any time, and at any other time no one would point at the people needing assistance,  unless they were totally unprepared.

Imagine the same situation were the group were there not during lockdown.

My point is that it was not the group that caused the accident.
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Re: Injured Patterdale mountain rescuer appeal raises £500,000
« Reply #12 on: February 20, 2021, 05:27:11 AM »
Quote from: BeRational on February 20, 2021, 12:22:12 AM
I think the rescue team were brave and professional.

The accident could have happened at any time, and at any other time no one would point at the people needing assistance,  unless they were totally unprepared.

Imagine the same situation were the group were there not during lockdown.

My point is that it was not the group that caused the accident.
Eh? The idiots who were there and got into trouble exactly created the situation of the accident. If they had not stupidly been there it wouldn't have happened.
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Re: Injured Patterdale mountain rescuer appeal raises £500,000
« Reply #13 on: February 20, 2021, 05:37:58 AM »
Quote from: Lord Tantamount Horseposture on February 19, 2021, 11:15:58 PM
What are you on about? Whom did I mock?
  LR. Now why is it different to 'going to an illegal rave'? Given that it was illegal and the stupid action led to someone being in a wheelchair for life?
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Re: Injured Patterdale mountain rescuer appeal raises £500,000
« Reply #14 on: February 20, 2021, 08:00:20 AM »
Quote from: BeRational on February 20, 2021, 12:22:12 AM
I think the rescue team were brave and professional.

The accident could have happened at any time, and at any other time no one would point at the people needing assistance,  unless they were totally unprepared.

Imagine the same situation were the group were there not during lockdown.

My point is that it was not the group that caused the accident.
Exactly!
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Re: Injured Patterdale mountain rescuer appeal raises £500,000
« Reply #15 on: February 20, 2021, 08:05:39 AM »
Quote from: Nearly Sane on February 20, 2021, 05:37:58 AM
  LR. Now why is it different to 'going to an illegal rave'? Given that it was illegal and the stupid action led to someone being in a wheelchair for life?
Sigh. Because they were a long way from anyone else, and outdoors, and not mingling with hundreds of others indoors; and, as BR says, their only misdeed, as far as we know, was breaking lockdown: they may have been (and probably were, or the muckraking British press would have told us) experienced mountaineers and campers. The accident was not connected to their illegal action.
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« Reply #16 on: February 20, 2021, 08:10:28 AM »
Quote from: Lord Tantamount Horseposture on February 20, 2021, 08:05:39 AM
Sigh. Because they were a long way from anyone else, and outdoors, and not mingling with hundreds of others indoors; and, as BR says, their only misdeed, as far as we know, was breaking lockdown: they may have been (and probably were, or the muckraking British press would have told us) experienced mountaineers and campers. The accident was not connected to their illegal action.
If they had't been committing their selfish little wank illegal action, it wouldn't have lead to someone being in a wheelchair.
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« Reply #17 on: February 20, 2021, 08:12:21 AM »
Quote from: Nearly Sane on February 20, 2021, 05:27:11 AM
Eh? The idiots who were there and got into trouble exactly created the situation of the accident. If they had not stupidly been there it wouldn't have happened.
So you disapprove of climbing and camping in all circumstances, because accidents might happen?
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« Reply #18 on: February 20, 2021, 08:17:29 AM »
Quote from: Lord Tantamount Horseposture on February 20, 2021, 08:12:21 AM
So you disapprove of climbing and camping in all circumstances, because accidents might happen?
So you approve of people breaking the law leading to someone ending up in a wheelchair trying to save them?
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« Reply #19 on: February 20, 2021, 08:17:47 AM »
Quote from: Nearly Sane on February 20, 2021, 08:10:28 AM
If they had't been committing their selfish little wank illegal action, it wouldn't have lead to someone being in a wheelchair.
And if I hadn't been cycling from Litchborough to Northampton in March 2014, I wouldn't have been knocked off my bike and spent nine weeks in hospital, costing the NHS many thousands of pounds. Should I be fined as well?
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« Reply #20 on: February 20, 2021, 08:19:27 AM »
Quote from: Nearly Sane on February 20, 2021, 08:17:29 AM
So you approve of people breaking the law leading to someone ending up in a wheelchair trying to save them?
Their breaking of the lockdown law had nothing to do with the accident. For an obviously intelligent bloke, you can be remarkably dim sometimes.
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« Reply #21 on: February 20, 2021, 08:19:48 AM »
Quote from: Lord Tantamount Horseposture on February 20, 2021, 08:17:47 AM
And if I hadn't been cycling from Litchborough to Northampton in March 2014, I wouldn't have been knocked off my bike and spent nine weeks in hospital, costing the NHS many thousands of pounds. Should I be fined as well?
Were you breaking the law in order to do so?
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« Reply #22 on: February 20, 2021, 08:20:44 AM »
Quote from: Lord Tantamount Horseposture on February 20, 2021, 08:19:27 AM
Their breaking of the lockdown law had nothing to do with the accident. For an obviously intelligent bloke, you can be remarkably dim sometimes.
If they weren't breaking the law, they wouldn't have been there.
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« Reply #23 on: February 20, 2021, 08:21:44 AM »
Quote from: Nearly Sane on February 20, 2021, 08:19:48 AM
Were you breaking the law in order to do so?
Oh, ffs. The law they were breaking had nothing to do with the accident. Is it that hard to understand?
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« Reply #24 on: February 20, 2021, 08:22:51 AM »
Quote from: Lord Tantamount Horseposture on February 20, 2021, 08:21:44 AM
Oh, ffs. The law they were breaking had nothing to do with the accident. Is it that hard to understand?
If they hadn't broken the law as they did the incident would not have happened.
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