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Title: Football 2018 - 2019
Post by: Nearly Sane on July 10, 2018, 06:04:48 PM
Given transfer news and the fact that the Champions League Qualifiers have started today! setting up new season thread
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Post by: Nearly Sane on July 12, 2018, 03:44:59 PM
And Conte sacked - how many other managers will go?


https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2018/07/12/antonio-conte-sacked-chelsea/

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Post by: jeremyp on July 12, 2018, 07:40:42 PM
Technically, I think Conte's sacking belongs to last season. Most of us are astonished he lasted this long.
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Post by: ad_orientem on July 15, 2018, 01:10:26 PM
West Ham are really going for it in the transfer market this summer. I'm excited. Now Filipe Anderson has joined from Lazio for about 40 million sovs.
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Post by: Rhiannon on July 17, 2018, 01:40:45 PM
West Ham are really going for it in the transfer market this summer. I'm excited. Now Filipe Anderson has joined from Lazio for about 40 million sovs.

How on earth are we affording this?
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Post by: ad_orientem on July 17, 2018, 02:38:44 PM
How on earth are we affording this?

It's a combination of things. I think we will sell a few players so that our net spend drops a bit. Pellegrini wanted to buy first. Plus I think the owners put aside some money for the right manager.
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Post by: Nearly Sane on July 20, 2018, 08:33:17 AM
Seen elsewhere after Hibs 12-5 aggregate victory in the Europa League 'Hibs progress through to the next round after 2 sets to love victory, 6-1, 6-4 to play Novak Djokovic'
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Post by: Nearly Sane on July 20, 2018, 08:04:56 PM
How much???


https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/44907306
Title: Re: Football 2018 - 2019
Post by: Nearly Sane on July 22, 2018, 05:52:48 PM

Look at the result on penalties

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/44916496
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Post by: Nearly Sane on July 22, 2018, 08:22:01 PM

Ozil stops his international career because of way treated by the DFB. This could turn ugly.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/44915730
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Post by: Rhiannon on July 26, 2018, 08:39:40 AM
Well this is an interesting signing.  ???

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/44957390
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Post by: jeremyp on July 26, 2018, 10:01:34 AM
Well this is an interesting signing.  ???

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/44957390

Is that Robert Green signing for Chelsea? I only ask because when I tried to follow your link, I was told the BBC is down.
Title: Re: Football 2018 - 2019
Post by: Rhiannon on July 26, 2018, 10:03:34 AM
Is that Robert Green signing for Chelsea? I only ask because when I tried to follow your link, I was told the BBC is down.

Indeed it is, on both counts, I've just discovered. 

Collectively West Ham fans are pointing at West London and laughing til their sides need corsets.
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Post by: Nearly Sane on August 02, 2018, 03:09:05 PM
Personally I think this treats Scottish football way too seriously


https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/45037847
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Post by: Rhiannon on August 02, 2018, 03:33:04 PM
Personally I think this treats Scottish football way too seriously


https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/45037847

That made me laugh out loud.
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Post by: Nearly Sane on August 02, 2018, 04:17:30 PM
That made me laugh out loud.
And as I have covered before, Tony Visconti swore to me one night that Bowie had used Queen's Park and their nickname The Spiders as inspiration for the Spiders from Mars after attending a couple of games at Hampden.
Title: Re: Football 2018 - 2019
Post by: Gordon on August 02, 2018, 06:41:35 PM
And as I have covered before, Tony Visconti swore to me one night that Bowie had used Queen's Park and their nickname The Spiders as inspiration for the Spiders from Mars after attending a couple of games at Hampden.

You're right: and I offer three pieces of convincing evidence in support.

1. I once knew a NHS physiotherapist, and to safeguard Neil's identity we'll call him 'Bob', who was the physio at Queen's Park many years ago and he confided that Queen's Park had a mystery benefactor whose identity would surprise everyone were it to become known. Now, Bob often gave my son and I free tickets, no doubt in an effort to get the attendance into double figures, and I certainly recall a slight figure (obviously male) sitting away from everyone else (not hard to do by the way) who always wore a duffel coat with the hood up and he also always wore sunglasses (even in a West of Scotland winter's day) - just sayin'.

2. Most will know that Queen's Park play at Hampden but those familiar with Glasgow will know Hampden is located in the Mount Florida area of Glasgow - which starts with an 'M', as does Mars!

3. Hampden is often busy when there a big games, and parking there is problematic - however, when Queen's Park play there are no such problems: you can just drive right in, even on a Saturday - and one of Bowie's best know songs is 'Drive in Saturday'! Coincidence I hear you say - but what are the chances of that!
 
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Post by: ad_orientem on August 09, 2018, 06:44:40 PM
A world class manager, a director of football, and ten new players. What a summer for West Ham.
Title: Re: Football 2018 - 2019
Post by: Rhiannon on August 27, 2018, 10:09:43 PM
A world class manager, a director of football, and ten new players. What a summer for West Ham.

Or not.
Title: Re: Football 2018 - 2019
Post by: Rhiannon on August 28, 2018, 10:19:22 AM
Always thought his career was amazing in the circumstances. but it was a rat that got him.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/45323426
Title: Re: Football 2018 - 2019
Post by: Rhiannon on August 28, 2018, 10:31:23 AM
This made me laugh.

http://newsthump.com/2018/08/28/jose-mourinho-slams-man-utd-bosses-for-failing-to-invest-in-new-manager/
Title: Re: Football 2018 - 2019
Post by: ad_orientem on August 28, 2018, 02:49:21 PM
Or not.

There was enough good in the game against Arsenal to give me mych hope. Sanchez as CDM was key, I think. We deserved much more from that game and were the better team for the most part. A very lucky second goal for Arsenal.
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Post by: jeremyp on August 28, 2018, 07:05:34 PM
Or not.

West Ham's demise at the Emirates comes as a relief to me. Before that, we were only one place above the relegation zone.
Title: Re: Football 2018 - 2019
Post by: jeremyp on August 28, 2018, 07:06:35 PM
We were the better team for the most part.

Nah.
Title: Re: Football 2018 - 2019
Post by: Rhiannon on August 28, 2018, 07:58:53 PM
There was enough good in the game against Arsenal to give me mych hope. Sanchez as CDM was key, I think. We deserved much more from that game and were the better team for the most part. A very lucky second goal for Arsenal.

Just keep repeating, at least I don't support Man U...works for me.
Title: Re: Football 2018 - 2019
Post by: Rhiannon on August 28, 2018, 07:59:35 PM
West Ham's demise at the Emirates comes as a relief to me. Before that, we were only one place above the relegation zone.

We're firmly in it and I bet we don't budge.
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Post by: wigginhall on August 28, 2018, 08:03:14 PM
The weird thing about the Man U Spurs game, was how Spurs were undervalued in the reports. The press has an obsession with Mourinho, which seems to obliterate others' fine play.
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Post by: ad_orientem on August 29, 2018, 12:23:12 PM
Nah.

You must have watched a different game to the one I did,  but then Arsenal fans have always been a bit funny. An Arsenal mate of mine said the same thing as you, to which I promptly replied "Fuck off!" and he was completely mystified (or rather delusional).
Title: Re: Football 2018 - 2019
Post by: jeremyp on August 29, 2018, 02:14:14 PM
You must have watched a different game to the one I did,  but then Arsenal fans have always been a bit funny. An Arsenal mate of mine said the same thing as you, to which I promptly replied "Fuck off!" and he was completely mystified (or rather delusional).
The score line was 3-1. Teams that are "better for much of the game" do not concede three goals.
Title: Re: Football 2018 - 2019
Post by: ad_orientem on August 29, 2018, 02:25:21 PM
The score line was 3-1. Teams that are "better for much of the game" do not concede three goals.

As I said, Gooners are bit funny.
Title: Re: Football 2018 - 2019
Post by: jeremyp on August 29, 2018, 02:31:55 PM
As I said, Gooners are bit funny.
It's funny to conclude that the team that won by two clear goals was better than the team that lost by two clear goals? If my thinking is funny, your thinking is head-in-the-sand relegation thinking.
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Post by: ad_orientem on August 29, 2018, 03:20:27 PM
It's funny to conclude that the team that won by two clear goals was better than the team that lost by two clear goals? If my thinking is funny, your thinking is head-in-the-sand relegation thinking.

Not always the better team win. That's football, because there are so many variables. Mostly teams win because they deserved to but not always, as was the case last Saturday. For a large chunk of the game we were all over Arsenal, or you were watching a different game.
Title: Re: Football 2018 - 2019
Post by: jeremyp on August 29, 2018, 07:04:26 PM
Not always the better team win.
We got three goals past your team. Your team only managed one in reply and that was early on. Three unanswered goals.

Quote
For a large chunk of the game we were all over Arsenal.
And yet it was Arsenal that scored three goals. I think you suffer from cognitive dissonance.
Title: Re: Football 2018 - 2019
Post by: ad_orientem on August 30, 2018, 05:53:57 PM
Hoping we draw Millwall in the League Cup tonight.
Title: Re: Football 2018 - 2019
Post by: ad_orientem on August 30, 2018, 07:31:12 PM
Bugger! Next round then.
Title: Re: Football 2018 - 2019
Post by: jeremyp on August 30, 2018, 07:51:13 PM
Bugger! Next round then.
Assuming you’re in the next round. What league are Macclesfield in?
Title: Re: Football 2018 - 2019
Post by: ad_orientem on August 30, 2018, 07:54:30 PM
Assuming you’re in the next round. What league are Macclesfield in?

Don't know, but they're the lowest ranked team left in the competition.

We were one ball away from drawing Millwall. The FA and OB must have shitting it. ;D
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Post by: jeremyp on August 30, 2018, 08:00:26 PM
Don't know, but they're the lowest ranked team left in the competition.

We were one ball away from drawing Millwall. The FA and OB must have shitting it. ;D
Are Millwall your mortal enemies then?
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Post by: ad_orientem on August 30, 2018, 08:04:29 PM
It's pure hate between our clubs. Never been one to look for aggro but I'd like to experience that athmosphere one day. Away at the Den and go there as a firm.
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Post by: Rhiannon on August 30, 2018, 08:20:34 PM
I went out with a Millwall supporter once.
Title: Re: Football 2018 - 2019
Post by: jeremyp on August 30, 2018, 08:27:54 PM
I went out with a Millwall supporter once.
For this alliance may so happy prove,
To turn your households' rancour to pure love.
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Post by: ad_orientem on August 30, 2018, 08:29:09 PM
I went out with a Millwall supporter once.

Ha! :o

I say pure hate, and we do love to hate each other, but there is some kind of mutual respect too nowadays. Similiar beginnings and both hard and we don't care what anyone thinks. Then there is all the good work some old school Millwall fans have done for Isla Caton.
Title: Re: Football 2018 - 2019
Post by: Rhiannon on August 30, 2018, 10:26:53 PM
For this alliance may so happy prove,
To turn your households' rancour to pure love.

That might be pushing it a bit
Title: Re: Football 2018 - 2019
Post by: jeremyp on August 31, 2018, 09:43:18 AM
That might be pushing it a bit
Yes, it actually ended pretty badly in the original.
Title: Re: Football 2018 - 2019
Post by: ProfessorDavey on September 02, 2018, 07:57:59 PM
What a stunningly good start to the season by Watford - I think many were tipping them for relegation, and although I didn't think they'd go down pre-season I wouldn't, in my wildest dreams, have thought we'd have a 100% record after 4 games.
Title: Re: Football 2018 - 2019
Post by: ProfessorDavey on September 02, 2018, 08:09:42 PM
What a stunningly good start to the season by Watford - I think many were tipping them for relegation, and although I didn't think they'd go down pre-season I wouldn't, in my wildest dreams, have thought we'd have a 100% record after 4 games.
But there is something really weird going on with the fixture listing - 3 of Watford's first 4 games have been at home, and guess what, our next game, vs Man U is also at home. Really odd.
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Post by: ProfessorDavey on September 05, 2018, 06:11:55 PM
But there is something really weird going on with the fixture listing - 3 of Watford's first 4 games have been at home, and guess what, our next game, vs Man U is also at home. Really odd.
I think this is something to do with Spurs and their delayed move back to White Hart Lane. Currently all teams in the premier league that played 2 home games and 2 away games.

Except Watford (3 home and 1 away) and
Spurs (1 home and 3 away)

And Watford played Spurs (at home, the anomalous game) last weekend.
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Post by: jeremyp on September 05, 2018, 08:33:38 PM
So it must be time to dust off the EPL managerial sweepstake again. The front runners are Pellegrini and Mourhino. Anybody want to make a case for anybody else?
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Post by: Rhiannon on September 05, 2018, 09:39:37 PM
I think this is something to do with Spurs and their delayed move back to White Hart Lane. Currently all teams in the premier league that played 2 home games and 2 away games.

Except Watford (3 home and 1 away) and
Spurs (1 home and 3 away)

And Watford played Spurs (at home, the anomalous game) last weekend.

They want you to have to go to Newcastle in the winter.
Title: Re: Football 2018 - 2019
Post by: ProfessorDavey on September 06, 2018, 07:53:30 AM
They want you to have to go to Newcastle in the winter.
Wont matter - we'll have won the league by then ;)
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Post by: Rhiannon on September 06, 2018, 09:20:05 AM
Wont matter - we'll have won the league by then ;)

Leicester means we can all dream, just a bit.  :)
Title: Re: Football 2018 - 2019
Post by: jeremyp on September 16, 2018, 07:58:16 PM
All the Hammers on this board and none of you want to comment on your very good victory?
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Post by: Rhiannon on September 16, 2018, 08:06:18 PM
All the Hammers on this board and none of you want to comment on your very good victory?

All two of us?
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Post by: Rhiannon on September 16, 2018, 08:07:36 PM
Ok, followed the match online, sounds like Pellegrini made a genius move in making six changes, Everton weren't really and played pretty abysmally, looking forward to more to come.
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Post by: ad_orientem on September 16, 2018, 08:47:04 PM
Ok, followed the match online, sounds like Pellegrini made a genius move in making six changes, Everton weren't really and played pretty abysmally, looking forward to more to come.

I watched it. It was a good game. That front three of Anderson, Arnie and Yarmo was good. Rice and Obiang were very good too. That second goal by Yarmo was class.
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Post by: ad_orientem on September 24, 2018, 10:37:29 AM
Decent result again on Sunday against Chelsea. Would have taken that result before the game. Looked much more compact. We now have a bit more confidence going into the Man U game on Saturday.
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Post by: Rhiannon on September 25, 2018, 11:21:06 PM
Just laughing at the highlights of the Man U - Derby match.
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Post by: Rhiannon on September 27, 2018, 09:26:08 AM
Well this is different.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/45569334
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Post by: ad_orientem on September 27, 2018, 09:49:55 AM
Usually struggle in those types of games. Nice to see us be clinical. The youngsters played well too.
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Post by: Rhiannon on September 27, 2018, 09:52:39 AM
Even WHU couldn't struggle against Macclesfield. Nice to see so many goals though.
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Post by: Nearly Sane on September 29, 2018, 02:38:36 PM
Another good result for WHU, but how long before Zidane replaces Mourinho?
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Post by: ad_orientem on September 29, 2018, 06:01:49 PM
That's the best I've seen West Ham play for a long time. Granted, Man U were below par, but I thought we dominated. Noble once again proved all his doubters wrong. My love for Zabaleta also runs deep. And our prodigy Rice was on his game too. COYI!
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Post by: Rhiannon on September 29, 2018, 06:29:39 PM
There was a rumour that Noble was undermining the manager. Seems out of character and not born out by today.
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Post by: ad_orientem on September 29, 2018, 06:49:33 PM
There was a rumour that Noble was undermining the manager. Seems out of character and not born out by today.

Probably bollocks. Noble wouldn't do that. Big shout out to Balbuena too. He was quality.
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Post by: Rhiannon on October 05, 2018, 09:28:58 AM
Interesting article about Phil Neville's style of management. I guess he must have learned it from Sir Alex. Unfortunate use pf the phrase 'hands on' though.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2018/oct/04/phil-neville-england-women-need-goals-world-cup-football
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Post by: ad_orientem on October 06, 2018, 07:21:23 AM
West Ham: ruining weekends since 1895.
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Post by: Nearly Sane on October 12, 2018, 04:16:45 PM
Good to see Scotland boycotting Israel last night by not turning up
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Post by: Rhiannon on October 12, 2018, 04:28:34 PM
Good to see Scotland boycotting Israel last night by not turning up

 ;D
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Post by: ad_orientem on October 13, 2018, 05:53:06 PM
Got to meet Sir Trevor Brooking today. A true West Ham legend and a gent. His wife is Finnish and he came here to meet us fans here. A day to remember. My first memories of West Ham are Trevor Brooking and he was my first West Ham hero.
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Post by: Rhiannon on October 14, 2018, 08:23:14 AM
Got to meet Sir Trevor Brooking today. A true West Ham legend and a gent. His wife is Finnish and he came here to meet us fans here. A day to remember. My first memories of West Ham are Trevor Brooking and he was my first West Ham hero.

Oh, cool. I'm the same as you, grew up in the Bonds/Brooking era. Feel sorry for Billy Bonds. Anyway, Brooking...legend.
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Post by: ad_orientem on October 14, 2018, 09:01:22 AM
Oh, cool. I'm the same as you, grew up in the Bonds/Brooking era. Feel sorry for Billy Bonds. Anyway, Brooking...legend.

Bonzo needs to be remembered more. He too, by all accounts, is a true gent. Bonds shouldn't have taken the manager's job after Macari. He got quite a bit of stick from fans.
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Post by: Rhiannon on October 14, 2018, 10:49:37 AM
Bonzo needs to be remembered more. He too, by all accounts, is a true gent. Bonds shouldn't have taken the manager's job after Macari. He got quite a bit of stick from fans.

Yes, I've heard he's one of the good guys. I guess he took the job out of loyalty to the club. I don't know the degree to which Redknapp shafted him but at best he'd told a lot of lies about what happened.
Title: Re: Football 2018 - 2019
Post by: Rhiannon on October 16, 2018, 08:07:28 AM
Enjoyed that match last night. Referee was appalling. Still, an away win in Spain, and three goals to boost... can't complain.
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Post by: ad_orientem on October 16, 2018, 09:06:33 AM
How did the ref come up with that much added time?
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Post by: Rhiannon on October 16, 2018, 09:40:04 AM
How did he miss the Pickford penalty?

To be fair there was a head injury incident in the second half which would account for at least some of the added time.
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Post by: Nearly Sane on October 16, 2018, 10:17:04 AM
Just received an internet warning that if I receive an email with the title 'Two free tickets for Scotland's next home match' not to open it because it contains 2 free tickets for Scotland's next home match.
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Post by: wigginhall on October 16, 2018, 11:56:17 AM
Enjoyed that match last night. Referee was appalling. Still, an away win in Spain, and three goals to boost... can't complain.

Pretty good.  The front three were v. good, Kane especially.   I wonder if this is a blip or sets a trend.   Pickford's distribution excellent.
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Post by: jeremyp on October 16, 2018, 12:35:04 PM
On the BBC "Have Your Say", one poster said that Spain would be happier than England. Huh?
Title: Re: Football 2018 - 2019
Post by: Nearly Sane on October 16, 2018, 01:08:01 PM
On the BBC "Have Your Say", one poster said that Spain would be happier than England. Huh?
I think there is nothing, no matter how stupid, that you cannot find in internet comments. HYS on the Sports section is even with moderation one of the worst places for this.
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Post by: wigginhall on October 16, 2018, 02:07:15 PM
Yes, football comments columns are mind-boggling in their stupidity.   I look at some of the Man Utd forums and cringe, well, a lot of them sound very young.
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Post by: Nearly Sane on October 16, 2018, 02:13:35 PM
Someone was quoted on the reactions to the match on the BBC report today as saying it was obvious that England were going backwards under Southgate, and it was time he was replaced. I think the desire there is simply to be quoted so you might as well be as contrarian as possible to get noticed. Just as with Piers Morgan on Daniel Craig carrying his, Craig's child in a papoose, and indeed the entirety of Morgan's life. People see the Morgans, Liddles and Hopkins gain in some cases fame and fortune but at the very worst notoriety and think it's a good way to behave.


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Post by: Rhiannon on October 16, 2018, 02:39:43 PM
Someone was quoted on the reactions to the match on the BBC report today as saying it was obvious that England were going backwards under Southgate, and it was time he was replaced. I think the desire there is simply to be quoted so you might as well be as contrarian as possible to get noticed. Just as with Piers Morgan on Daniel Craig carrying his, Craig's child in a papoose, and indeed the entirety of Morgan's life. People see the Morgans, Liddles and Hopkins gain in some cases fame and fortune but at the very worst notoriety and think it's a good way to behave.

And then the rest of us point and laugh.
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Post by: Rhiannon on October 16, 2018, 02:41:34 PM
Speaking of Morgan, and not remotely relevant to football. I love Corey Graves and I love this.

https://www.wwe.com/article/corey-graves-piers-morgan-twitter-beef
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Post by: ad_orientem on November 12, 2018, 11:01:40 AM
Third international break in three months. Bloody joke. No one cares about friendlies or some silly bollocks nations league.

Still, in two weeks time West Ham play Citeh. 2-0 West Ham, dead cert!
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Post by: Roses on November 21, 2018, 03:46:01 PM
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-46289456

This made me giggle, their skill at football is probably better than that of Bercow, he is probably jealous. ;D
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Post by: Nearly Sane on December 08, 2018, 05:19:16 PM
Quite excited to watch Scotland in a football World Cup draw, 21 years after the last one.
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Post by: Nearly Sane on December 08, 2018, 06:23:45 PM
Had been hoping for group of Australia, Brazil, and Jamaica but Italy snaffled that. Still will take that
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Post by: ad_orientem on December 08, 2018, 06:56:54 PM
We win every week, we win every week, we are West Ham United, we win every week!
Title: Re: Football 2018 - 2019
Post by: Nearly Sane on December 08, 2018, 07:37:55 PM
We win every week, we win every week, we are West Ham United, we win every week!
looks like it is coming together. Be good to see
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Post by: jeremyp on December 08, 2018, 07:41:59 PM
Quite excited to watch Scotland in a football World Cup draw, 21 years after the last one.
You never know, you might see them in a win one day.
Title: Re: Football 2018 - 2019
Post by: jeremyp on December 08, 2018, 07:45:49 PM
Man City got beaten. That makes things a little more interesting. We can only hope that Spurs lose too, so Arsenal stay in the top four.
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Post by: ad_orientem on December 08, 2018, 07:47:28 PM
looks like it is coming together. Be good to see

Still lots of work to do. Shouldn't really get too excited yet but definitely signs we're going in the right direction now. After a difficult start the fixture list is kind to us right up to January. The real mark of improvement will be consistency against the teams around us, not the odd win against one of the top teams. Definitely happy though. Anderson is now showing why he's worth 40mil, Snodgrass has turned into a fan favourite and my live for Zabaleta runs deep.
Title: Re: Football 2018 - 2019
Post by: ad_orientem on December 08, 2018, 07:49:59 PM
Man City got beaten. That makes things a little more interesting. We can only hope that Spurs lose too, so Arsenal stay in the top four.

Definitely makes things interesting. Don't worry about Spurs. They always bottle it at some point. ;D
Title: Re: Football 2018 - 2019
Post by: jeremyp on December 08, 2018, 07:56:57 PM
Definitely makes things interesting. Don't worry about Spurs. They always bottle it at some point. ;D
They didn’t last year.
Title: Re: Football 2018 - 2019
Post by: Nearly Sane on December 08, 2018, 08:32:47 PM
I don't really care. I am off to support the team. Just looking at which group of matches make sense. Nice looks nice, and France then play there. But the Scotland Argentina match is on Paris.
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Post by: ad_orientem on December 15, 2018, 09:38:33 PM
Four wins in a row.
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Post by: ad_orientem on December 16, 2018, 10:14:44 AM
Pellegrini's claret and blue army!
Title: Re: Football 2018 - 2019
Post by: Nearly Sane on December 18, 2018, 09:56:23 AM
Mourinho gone

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/46603018
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Post by: wigginhall on December 18, 2018, 10:22:17 AM
Wow, I didn't think they'd have the bottle.  I guess the carnage at Anfield settled it.  I will miss him in a way, but his negativity was like a black cloud.
Title: Re: Football 2018 - 2019
Post by: Nearly Sane on December 18, 2018, 10:25:36 AM
I wonder if any transfer discussions were running into problems. Were I to be a player Man Utd were interested in, watching what has gone one with so many players of late, I'd be very wary about going there.
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Post by: wigginhall on December 18, 2018, 10:30:11 AM
I also don't think a new manager will change things, the rot goes deep.   JM has looked awful since his father died, but also something not right football wise.  Bereavement lasts 2 years, minimum, but there is no time for that in business.
Title: Re: Football 2018 - 2019
Post by: wigginhall on December 18, 2018, 11:01:06 AM
If I was a friend of Pochettino, probably the favourite at OT, I would say to him, don't touch it with a barge pole.  OT is a meatgrinder, which will suck you in and spit you out.
Title: Re: Football 2018 - 2019
Post by: Nearly Sane on December 18, 2018, 11:45:43 AM
I would have that the Real would be more tempting for him. Eddie Howe? Zidane?
Title: Re: Football 2018 - 2019
Post by: ad_orientem on December 18, 2018, 12:23:49 PM
Good. Can't stand the geezer. Miserable ****! Finally been found out for the fraud he is.
Title: Re: Football 2018 - 2019
Post by: wigginhall on December 18, 2018, 01:32:17 PM
I reckon Blanc is favourite as caretaker, ex-player as well.   Calling JM a fraud is weird.
Title: Re: Football 2018 - 2019
Post by: ad_orientem on December 18, 2018, 01:34:36 PM
I reckon Blanc is favourite as caretaker, ex-player as well.   Calling JM a fraud is weird.

Supposedly top a top manager, he goes on about how good he is, spent 400 million and still can't get his team to play. Definitely a fraud.
Title: Re: Football 2018 - 2019
Post by: wigginhall on December 18, 2018, 01:52:52 PM
Yeah, but he's burned out.  In his pomp, what was it, 8 league titles, and 2 CL.   Ironically, his win percentage at MU is the 2nd highest ever.  Career wins, 64.8%.
Title: Re: Football 2018 - 2019
Post by: Roses on December 18, 2018, 02:02:16 PM
I was really annoyed that bit of trivia was second item on the lunchtime news! >:(
Title: Re: Football 2018 - 2019
Post by: ad_orientem on December 18, 2018, 03:32:29 PM
Mayne they should het BFS in. LOL!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ScW7e9DasxU
Title: Re: Football 2018 - 2019
Post by: Nearly Sane on December 18, 2018, 03:46:22 PM
As the interim don't they get old 'Arry fresh out of the jungle, crowned, and ready to go?
Title: Re: Football 2018 - 2019
Post by: ad_orientem on December 18, 2018, 04:03:10 PM
LOL!
Title: Re: Football 2018 - 2019
Post by: jeremyp on December 19, 2018, 09:06:33 PM
Wow, I didn't think they'd have the bottle.  I guess the carnage at Anfield settled it.  I will miss him in a way, but his negativity was like a black cloud.

So they are now on their fourth manager since Ferguson and, unless Solskjaer get the job permanently, come the summer they will be on their fifth. At some point you have to say, maybe it's not the manager's fault.
Title: Re: Football 2018 - 2019
Post by: Nearly Sane on December 23, 2018, 04:25:53 PM
The wonderful world of Scottish football


https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/46662555
Title: Re: Football 2018 - 2019
Post by: ad_orientem on December 29, 2018, 10:33:41 AM
The Dildo Brothers finally came to their senses and gave Declan Rice a new contract till 2024. Watching the game against Southampton the other day he was awesome. He has been all season. Only 19 years old but has the head of a 30 year old. A future West Ham captain and legend.
Title: Re: Football 2018 - 2019
Post by: ad_orientem on January 04, 2019, 10:10:46 AM
Liverpool fans being classy as ever in the light of defeat.

https://twitter.com/bubbles_bear1/status/1080954466516566018?s=19
Title: Re: Football 2018 - 2019
Post by: jeremyp on January 04, 2019, 11:17:04 AM
Liverpool fans being classy as ever in the light of defeat.

https://twitter.com/bubbles_bear1/status/1080954466516566018?s=19

I really thought that the Arsenal record of being the only team to go unbeaten for a season in the EPL was under threat this year.
Title: Re: Football 2018 - 2019
Post by: ad_orientem on January 04, 2019, 11:36:57 AM
I really thought that the Arsenal record of being the only team to go unbeaten for a season in the EPL was under threat this year.

I thought it might aswell but City are still a good team. They were bound to beat Liverpool at some point.
Title: Re: Football 2018 - 2019
Post by: ad_orientem on January 07, 2019, 10:13:53 PM
Bollocks! We're never going to draw Millwall.
Title: Re: Football 2018 - 2019
Post by: Nearly Sane on January 08, 2019, 07:46:40 PM
Some of the delights of Scottish football

https://www.footballscotland.co.uk/features/old-firm-facts/whats-point-scottish-football-old-15643123
Title: Re: Football 2018 - 2019
Post by: ad_orientem on January 09, 2019, 06:02:58 AM
Some of the delights of Scottish football

https://www.footballscotland.co.uk/features/old-firm-facts/whats-point-scottish-football-old-15643123

"No-one. Literally no-one is going to win the “SPL”."

That's just nitpicking innit?
Title: Re: Football 2018 - 2019
Post by: jeremyp on January 10, 2019, 02:28:18 PM
"No-one. Literally no-one is going to win the “SPL”."

That's just nitpicking innit?

It is a bit, yes. The SPL no longer exists. It's called the Scottish Premiership now.
Title: Re: Football 2018 - 2019
Post by: ad_orientem on January 12, 2019, 05:11:26 PM
COYI! Good game. Could have gone either way for much of the game but we played well. High press and first to most balls. Delighted for Rice getting his first goal. He really is something special. Nasri had a good game. Also good to see Antonio and Cresswell getting into form.
Title: Re: Football 2018 - 2019
Post by: Anchorman on January 21, 2019, 07:35:01 PM
Stuff your Man U, Man City and the rest.... Eeka peeka pukka po! (OK.....answers on a postcard....)
Title: Re: Football 2018 - 2019
Post by: Nearly Sane on January 21, 2019, 07:42:57 PM
Stuff your Man U, Man City and the rest.... Eeka peeka pukka po! (OK.....answers on a postcard....)
Great win.
Title: Re: Football 2018 - 2019
Post by: Anchorman on January 21, 2019, 08:25:58 PM
Great win.
     



      Ah, the intellect of the supporter.
For those not au fait with the rivalry which verges on warfare between the towns of Auchinleck and Cumnock, the latter strip is identical to Talbot's beaten opponent, Ayr, on Saturday.
As the minutes drew to the whistle, "Eeeka Peeka, which normally graced "Cym Rhonda", became:

"You're jist Cumnock,you're jist Cumnock,
You're jist Cumnock in disguise....."

Title: Re: Football 2018 - 2019
Post by: ad_orientem on January 21, 2019, 08:34:19 PM
Think I need Google translate.
Title: Re: Football 2018 - 2019
Post by: Anchorman on January 21, 2019, 08:44:12 PM
Think I need Google translate.
   





      The Eeka Peeka bit?
Well, that's a ditty sung to the aforementioned Cym Rhonda.
It should have went 'We'll support you evermore', but a chap on the terrace was deaf and had - has - slight learning difficulties, and couldn't quite manage it...all he could sing was "Eeka peeka, Eeka peeka, eeka peeka pukka po!"
Those  around him joined in, to make sure he didn't feel left out...and now every  'Bot fan's been sing it for twenty years!



Title: Re: Football 2018 - 2019
Post by: ad_orientem on January 21, 2019, 08:58:47 PM
Cheers.
Title: Re: Football 2018 - 2019
Post by: Roses on January 22, 2019, 11:21:54 AM
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-guernsey-46954922

Very sad, if true.
Title: Re: Football 2018 - 2019
Post by: Robbie on January 22, 2019, 05:27:24 PM
Yes, I read it earlier. Very sobering indeed.
Title: Re: Football 2018 - 2019
Post by: ad_orientem on January 22, 2019, 05:42:07 PM
Football fans usually pull together when things like that happen. Colours don't matter.
Title: Re: Football 2018 - 2019
Post by: Roses on January 22, 2019, 06:28:17 PM
https://guernseypress.com/news/2019/01/22/no-sign-of-light-aircraft-missing-off-alderney/

The search for the aircraft has been suspended.
Title: Re: Football 2018 - 2019
Post by: Roses on January 24, 2019, 04:29:36 PM
The search has been called off as the chances of finding them alive is so remote.
Title: Re: Football 2018 - 2019
Post by: Roses on February 04, 2019, 11:44:11 AM
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-47118340

A body has been seen in the wreckage of the plane.
Title: Re: Football 2018 - 2019
Post by: ad_orientem on February 06, 2019, 06:50:11 PM
Nantes are apparently demanding the money for the player with threat of legal action. Low. Very low.
Title: Re: Football 2018 - 2019
Post by: jeremyp on February 06, 2019, 06:56:08 PM
Nantes are apparently demanding the money for the player with threat of legal action. Low. Very low.
It’s money they are owed. The player was already transferred to Cardiff. The timing is absolutely terrible though.
Title: Re: Football 2018 - 2019
Post by: ProfessorDavey on February 06, 2019, 07:42:49 PM
It’s money they are owed. The player was already transferred to Cardiff. The timing is absolutely terrible though.
Agree entirely - he was a Cardiff player at the point the plane went down, and of course the only reason he was on the plane in the first place was because he'd been transferred.

Horrible timing - I agree and poor PR on the part of Nantes. I wonder too whether the deal had appearance clauses, which would be particularly tough on them if the case.
Title: Re: Football 2018 - 2019
Post by: Roses on February 07, 2019, 08:26:43 AM
The body has been recovered, and sent to the UK, they haven't as yet said whose body it is. The search has been called off.
Title: Re: Football 2018 - 2019
Post by: ProfessorDavey on February 08, 2019, 07:43:55 AM
The body has been recovered, and sent to the UK, they haven't as yet said whose body it is. The search has been called off.
Body identified as Sala

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-47166633
Title: Re: Football 2018 - 2019
Post by: Roses on February 08, 2019, 12:25:47 PM
It is sad the pilot's body has not been found so his family could have closure too. :(
Title: Re: Football 2018 - 2019
Post by: Anchorman on February 08, 2019, 10:06:01 PM
The real value of football. Eeka peeka. https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/17420428.how-talbot-holds-auchinleck-together/?fbclid=IwAR0zUBj7FKLZ_6vadOzEBU8HZ1SyJUsk9m-jCeP06MtHquWPt6IzdhsK0VE
Title: Re: Football 2018 - 2019
Post by: ad_orientem on February 19, 2019, 07:57:08 PM
A touch of class.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/8448645/newport-generous-guardiola-man-city/amp/
Title: Re: Football 2018 - 2019
Post by: Nearly Sane on February 19, 2019, 08:14:16 PM
Good for them
Title: Re: Football 2018 - 2019
Post by: ad_orientem on February 24, 2019, 12:29:11 PM
Never thought I'd hear of the day when West Ham would grass up other West Ham. Sad times we live in.
Title: Re: Football 2018 - 2019
Post by: ad_orientem on February 28, 2019, 10:54:44 AM
Penalty, my arse!
Title: Re: Football 2018 - 2019
Post by: Nearly Sane on March 06, 2019, 11:22:00 AM
Well done. Ajax. Can see Pochettino being pinched by Real.
Title: Re: Football 2018 - 2019
Post by: ad_orientem on March 06, 2019, 07:20:30 PM
Well done. Ajax. Can see Pochettino being pinched by Real.

Never liked the Spanish clubs. Good to see Real be knocked out.
Title: Re: Football 2018 - 2019
Post by: Nearly Sane on March 06, 2019, 07:36:38 PM
Never liked the Spanish clubs. Good to see Real be knocked out.
Catalan clubs on the other hand...
Title: Re: Football 2018 - 2019
Post by: jeremyp on March 06, 2019, 07:38:21 PM
Catalan clubs on the other hand...
A subset of Spanish clubs.
Title: Re: Football 2018 - 2019
Post by: Nearly Sane on March 06, 2019, 07:40:57 PM
A subset of Spanish clubs.
Just no.
Title: Re: Football 2018 - 2019
Post by: jeremyp on March 06, 2019, 07:45:16 PM
Just no.
Catalonia is in Spain. Catalonian clubs are Spanish clubs. Some Catalonians might not like that, but it is a fact.
Title: Re: Football 2018 - 2019
Post by: Nearly Sane on March 06, 2019, 08:07:26 PM
Catalonia is in Spain. Catalonian clubs are Spanish clubs. Some Catalonians might not like that, but it is a fact.
Whoosh
Title: Re: Football 2018 - 2019
Post by: jeremyp on March 06, 2019, 08:10:40 PM
Whoosh
If you want to do the whoosh thing, it’s better if the joke is funny.
Title: Re: Football 2018 - 2019
Post by: Nearly Sane on March 06, 2019, 08:11:41 PM
If you want to do the whoosh thing, it’s better if the joke is funny.
And whoosh again. Not all whooshes are jokes.
Title: Re: Football 2018 - 2019
Post by: Nearly Sane on March 07, 2019, 01:21:31 AM
That Man U result makes you think the job is Solskjaer's
Title: Re: Football 2018 - 2019
Post by: jeremyp on March 07, 2019, 07:29:35 PM
And whoosh again. Not all whooshes are jokes.
If it’s not a joke, I don’t really know what you are on about, so please enlighten me.
Title: Re: Football 2018 - 2019
Post by: Nearly Sane on March 07, 2019, 07:33:03 PM
If it’s not a joke, I don’t really know what you are on about, so please enlighten me.
that maybe some think Catalonia isn't Spain. Your view of facts is based on an acceptance of axioms that others may disagree with.
Title: Re: Football 2018 - 2019
Post by: jeremyp on March 07, 2019, 07:52:44 PM
that maybe some think Catalonia isn't Spain. Your view of facts is based on an acceptance of axioms that others may disagree with.
My view is based on geopolitical reality. Catalonia is in Spain. This is a fact. I accept that many Catalonians want Catalonia not to be in Spain, but that doesn’t mean that it isn’t.
Title: Re: Football 2018 - 2019
Post by: Nearly Sane on March 08, 2019, 02:49:47 AM
My view is based on geopolitical reality. Catalonia is in Spain. This is a fact. I accept that many Catalonians want Catalonia not to be in Spain, but that doesn’t mean that it isn’t.
Again you accept an axiom that some don't.
Title: Re: Football 2018 - 2019
Post by: ad_orientem on March 08, 2019, 08:09:53 AM
That Man U result makes you think the job is Solskjaer's

I'd be very surprised if he doesn't get the job. He's made an exxellent account of himself.
Title: Re: Football 2018 - 2019
Post by: ProfessorDavey on March 08, 2019, 09:41:20 AM
I'd be very surprised if he doesn't get the job. He's made an exxellent account of himself.
I agree - I can't see what more he could have done in his first few weeks.

I have a sneaking suspicion though that he'll get the job and struggle next season once the 'new manager' effect has worn off. There is something that keeps reminding me of Roberto Di Matteo at Chelsea.
Title: Re: Football 2018 - 2019
Post by: wigginhall on March 08, 2019, 10:05:14 AM
Yes, probably a honeymoon effect going on, and sheer relief to be free of the Sulk, (Mourinho).   He's also had a lot of luck, that penalty at PSG for example.   But he is showing tactical nous, and fans are happy.
Title: Re: Football 2018 - 2019
Post by: jeremyp on March 08, 2019, 04:38:15 PM
Again you accept an axiom that some don't.
You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.
Title: Re: Football 2018 - 2019
Post by: jeremyp on March 08, 2019, 04:42:44 PM
I agree - I can't see what more he could have done in his first few weeks.

I have a sneaking suspicion though that he'll get the job and struggle next season once the 'new manager' effect has worn off. There is something that keeps reminding me of Roberto Di Matteo at Chelsea.

I agree with this. I would also argue that the problems at Man U are fundamentally not problems of poor team management.
Title: Re: Football 2018 - 2019
Post by: jeremyp on March 10, 2019, 07:07:59 PM
I agree - I can't see what more he could have done in his first few weeks.

I have a sneaking suspicion though that he'll get the job and struggle next season once the 'new manager' effect has worn off. There is something that keeps reminding me of Roberto Di Matteo at Chelsea.

One lost match does not a slump in form make, but....

Time was, this fixture once would have been a top of the table clash, probably deciding the champions given the late stage of the season. Alas, both teams have fallen on slightly harder times.
Title: Re: Football 2018 - 2019
Post by: ad_orientem on April 21, 2019, 07:21:13 PM
Due to poor officials we've been robbed of five points over two consecutive weekends. With all that dough you'd think the PL would have the best officials in the world. No wonder there wasn't any English officials at the World Cup last year. Fuming! >:( Can't wait for VAR next season.
Title: Re: Football 2018 - 2019
Post by: jeremyp on April 22, 2019, 10:52:42 AM
I agree - I can't see what more he could have done in his first few weeks.

I have a sneaking suspicion though that he'll get the job and struggle next season once the 'new manager' effect has worn off. There is something that keeps reminding me of Roberto Di Matteo at Chelsea.

It seems you were wrong*. The struggling has already started.

The problems at Man U are not the manager. The fact that Mourhino failed should have been a clue. Whether you like him or not, his record shows he is a good manager.

* in the most pedantic sense.
Title: Re: Football 2018 - 2019
Post by: jeremyp on May 10, 2019, 08:34:16 AM
For the first time in history, the four finalists for the European club competitions will all be from one country. How cool is that?

It seems like only last year that people were bewailing English clubs’ inability to compete at the highest level. I guess that’s sport.
Title: Re: Football 2018 - 2019
Post by: ProfessorDavey on May 10, 2019, 09:20:50 AM
For the first time in history, the four finalists for the European club competitions will all be from one country. How cool is that?

It seems like only last year that people were bewailing English clubs’ inability to compete at the highest level. I guess that’s sport.
Yes it is a remarkable achievement and all the more so since at the beginning of the week the defult position from the first legs would have been no English clubs in the champions league final.

Big issue is being able to actually watch the final. Although I think this is one of the 'protected' sporting events which needs to be free to view, if last year is anything to go by this will only be a free streaming option, which wont work for many people.
Title: Re: Football 2018 - 2019
Post by: SusanDoris on May 10, 2019, 10:24:50 AM
I'm not a football fan :) but I quite often have Five Live on in the evenings and I must say it has been slightly interesting to hear how the winners have overcome their opponents' scores!!
Title: Re: Football 2018 - 2019
Post by: ProfessorDavey on May 10, 2019, 10:28:37 AM
I'm not a football fan :) but I quite often have Five Live on in the evenings and I must say it has been slightly interesting to hear how the winners have overcome their opponents' scores!!
I listened to both Champions League matches on the radio - I think it is actually more stressful than watching on the tv as often you genuinely couldn't work out for a second what had happened, just that it was dramatic. Had I been watching I'd have seen the net bulge!!
Title: Re: Football 2018 - 2019
Post by: ad_orientem on May 10, 2019, 03:47:23 PM
Great for English football. As long as Spurs don't win, everything's fine. I'd never hear the end of it otherwise, with my half-brother and best mate back in England both Spurs fans. Hope Arsenal beat those Chelsea rentboys as well.
Title: Re: Football 2018 - 2019
Post by: ad_orientem on May 12, 2019, 12:12:22 AM
This is proper Brexit. Half inch all the silverware then leave. ;D
Title: Re: Football 2018 - 2019
Post by: jeremyp on May 12, 2019, 03:13:35 PM

Big issue is being able to actually watch the final. Although I think this is one of the 'protected' sporting events which needs to be free to view, if last year is anything to go by this will only be a free streaming option, which wont work for many people.

I don't think either competition is free to air protected.

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2009/jun/09/crown-jewels-sporting-events
Title: Re: Football 2018 - 2019
Post by: ProfessorDavey on May 14, 2019, 12:37:16 PM
I don't think either competition is free to air protected.

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2009/jun/09/crown-jewels-sporting-events
Yes I think you are right - my mistake.

Looking down the list it seems rather unbalanced and out of date. Is the Derby really a pinnacle of sport in the UK, or the Rugby League challenge cup final? And no protected live cricket at all (only highlights), albeit this is arguably our 'national' summer sport.

I gather the Champions league final will be free to air, but still unsure how to access - think you can do it via youtube but I'd worry about the reliability of such a platform with everyone watching live.
Title: Re: Football 2018 - 2019
Post by: jeremyp on May 15, 2019, 07:34:46 PM
Yes I think you are right - my mistake.

Looking down the list it seems rather unbalanced and out of date. Is the Derby really a pinnacle of sport in the UK, or the Rugby League challenge cup final? And no protected live cricket at all (only highlights), albeit this is arguably our 'national' summer sport.

I gather the Champions league final will be free to air, but still unsure how to access - think you can do it via youtube but I'd worry about the reliability of such a platform with everyone watching live.
Yes. It seems rather odd that the RWC final is protected but the Cricket World Cup final is only category B. I would put money on more people wanting to watch the latter.

I’m not bothered about the CL final but I am quite keen on seeing the Europa final.
Title: Re: Football 2018 - 2019
Post by: jeremyp on May 19, 2019, 09:52:06 AM
Congratulations to Manchester City on the treble. Bah humbug!
Title: Re: Football 2018 - 2019
Post by: ad_orientem on May 19, 2019, 12:06:09 PM
I’m not bothered about the CL final but I am quite keen on seeing the Europa final.

Of course, you're a Gooner ain't yer?
Title: Re: Football 2018 - 2019
Post by: jeremyp on June 01, 2019, 07:56:59 PM
Of course, you're a Gooner ain't yer?

That went well. All we need is for Spurs to beat Liverpool to top off a perfect season.
Title: Re: Football 2018 - 2019
Post by: Anchorman on June 02, 2019, 11:48:41 PM
The REAL treblewinners are.... Auchinleck Talbot....whosecured the Scottish Junior Cup for a record busting thirteenth time. As I write (11;50 pm) the town is still buzzing, and a lot of hangovers are maturing nicely.