Here's The Plan We Should Be Following.

[Jack Knave]

Well worth listening to all of it but the policy or plan starts around 2:40.

http://www.ukipmeps.org/

[jeremyp]

Well worth listening to all of it but the policy or plan starts around 2:40.

http://www.ukipmeps.org/

Can you summarise it for us. I'm not in a position to be able to stream videos at the moment since I'm on a slow mobile link.

[Jack Knave]

Can you summarise it for us. I'm not in a position to be able to stream videos at the moment since I'm on a slow mobile link.

Can't you wait till you get home? I know Farage is brilliant but patience is a virtue. Basically to fully leave the EU and function in the world once more, away from that totalitarian state.

[Nearly Sane]

Can't you wait till you get home? I know Farage is brilliant but patience is a virtue. Basically to fully leave the EU and function in the world once more, away from that totalitarian state.

is he your dad?

[jeremyp]

Can't you wait till you get home? I know Farage is brilliant but patience is a virtue.

Can't you stop being a lazy twat and put a bit more effort into your post than just a bare link?

Basically to fully leave the EU and function in the world once more, away from that totalitarian state.

We are going to leave the EU. Didn't you know?

[ProfessorDavey]

Can't you wait till you get home? I know Farage is brilliant but patience is a virtue. Basically to fully leave the EU and function in the world once more, away from that totalitarian state.

Farage isn't going to be PM, he isn't going to be in government, he will be no-where near the negotiations on the post Brexit settlement. Who exactly who is likely to be leading these developments (May, Gove, Leadsom, Crabb or Fox) is likely to negotiate a deal of that nature. None of them - well actually perhaps Fox, but he will likely be the first to be eliminated in the MPs votes.

If May as seems very likely it will probably be EEA - in other words not an EU member, but access to free market, retaining (largely) free movement, still paying into the EU (and probably being a net contributor like Norway).

Happy with that JK? - that what you voted for?

[torridon]

Can't you wait till you get home? I know Farage is brilliant but patience is a virtue. Basically to fully leave the EU and function in the world once more, away from that totalitarian state.

If the institutions of the EU are insufficiently democratic surely it is better to work to improve them rather than run away and play in a corner.

[Nearly Sane]

Jeremyp, this serious and in depth review of the  plan might work even with your slow connection


http://thebrexitplan.com/

[jeremyp]

Jeremyp, this serious and in depth review of the  plan might work even with your slow connection


http://thebrexitplan.com/

Thanks. I'm posting that on Facebook because everybody deserves to know this.

[Jack Knave]

Can't you stop being a lazy twat and put a bit more effort into your post than just a bare link?

I was just carrying on your jest. You weren't being serious, of course...?

We are going to leave the EU. Didn't you know?

Are we? Brexit light isn't leaving...

[Jack Knave]

Farage isn't going to be PM, he isn't going to be in government, he will be no-where near the negotiations on the post Brexit settlement. Who exactly who is likely to be leading these developments (May, Gove, Leadsom, Crabb or Fox) is likely to negotiate a deal of that nature. None of them - well actually perhaps Fox, but he will likely be the first to be eliminated in the MPs votes.

If May as seems very likely it will probably be EEA - in other words not an EU member, but access to free market, retaining (largely) free movement, still paying into the EU (and probably being a net contributor like Norway).

Happy with that JK? - that what you voted for?

My OP was about what should be done, what the plan is by definition of the term Brexit - fully out. Anything else is not Brexit.

[Jack Knave]

If the institutions of the EU are insufficiently democratic surely it is better to work to improve them rather than run away and play in a corner.

That would be like trying to fry up a dog turd and create a fried egg - impossible. We won't be playing in the corner but on the world stage. It is the EU who have their heads up their arses.

[Gonnagle]

Dear Sane,

http://thebrexitplan.com/

Thanks first chortle of the day

Dear Jeremyp,

Jack Knaves link is just UKIP posturing, there is no plan, the headline in the link is all about farages "who's laughing now".

Gonnagle.

[Nearly Sane]

My OP was about what should be done, what the plan is by definition of the term Brexit - fully out. Anything else is not Brexit.

how come you and the 'brilliant' Nigel didn't notice that that was not happening. It is also not what the Leave campaign said so your view here is wrong, irrelevant and shows Nigel up to be an incompetent.

[ProfessorDavey]

My OP was about what should be done, what the plan is by definition of the term Brexit - fully out. Anything else is not Brexit.

All Brexit means is that we are non longer members of the EU - nothing more, nothing less.

Being like Norway is a perfectly valid type of Brexit - you might not like it, but it is Brexit all the same, in other words we would no longer be a member of the EU.

You do remember what the wording was on the referendum, don't you.

So EEA membership would undoubtedly be Brexit - you happy with that?

[wigginhall]

This reminds me of Biblical interpretation - this passage means X, Y, and Z - and I know this because these are my sincerely held beliefs, and anybody else is wrong.

[torridon]

That would be like trying to fry up a dog turd and create a fried egg - impossible. We won't be playing in the corner but on the world stage. It is the EU who have their heads up their arses.

We might be on the world stage but we are also a defacto part of Europe whether we like it or not, and Europe needs to formulate coherent continent-wide policies, the alternative would be an incoherent mishmash of contradictory national policies, we need to do better than that.  We might not like the current Tory government, but we don't just give up on the concept of parliamentary democracy because of that. We stay and make our voices heard through democratic channels.

[jeremyp]

I was just carrying on your jest. You weren't being serious, of course...?

Your response was nearly as funny as my original comment.

Are we? Brexit light isn't leaving...

I thought Brexit light was leaving the EU but keeping access to the single market, Norway style.

[jeremyp]

Dear Sane,

http://thebrexitplan.com/

Thanks first chortle of the day

Dear Jeremyp,

Jack Knaves link is just UKIP posturing, there is no plan, the headline in the link is all about farages "who's laughing now".

Gonnagle.

There's no plan? Surely not. Didn't Vote Leave have some sort of contingency in case they won?

[Walt Zingmatilder]

I was just carrying on your jest. You weren't being serious, of course...?
Are we? Brexit light isn't leaving...

Actually, it is.

[wigginhall]

Actually, it is.

It's hermeneutics, Vlad, my version of Brexit is purer than yours, and closer to the original intention, so there.

[Walt Zingmatilder]

It's hermeneutics

Don't you mean Herman's hermits?

[Bubbles]

Don't you mean Herman's hermits?

Definately Hermans Hermits

Years May Come, Years May Go lyrics

Let's take a look behind
and see what we can find
last year has
gone for everyone
passed with time

What happened to us then
can happen once again
and what's it now to me
history

Years may come
years may go
some go fast
some go slow

Some are good
some are bad
for each one
just be glad

Whenever I review
my lovin' times with you
I wouldn't change
a single page
we've lived through

It wasn't always smooth
sometimes we'd
jump the groove
we shed some tears and then
loved again

Years may come
years may go
some go fast
some go slow

Some are good
some are bad
for each one
just be glad

Some heartaches
I don't doubt
life's sure to dish us out
we'll beat the lot
and that is what
life's all about

Whatever may come true
ahead for me and you
someday it all will be
memories

Years may come
years may go
some go fast
some go slow

Some are good
some are bad
for each one
let's be glad

Years may come
years may go
some go fast
some go slow

 

[Hope]

Basically to fully leave the EU and function in the world once more, away from that totalitarian state.

'Unfortunately', as John Donne said many years ago, 'no man is an island' Jack.  We will never be able to survive without some form of connection with the EU or the countries that make it up.  As I've said elsewhere, our status as 5th largest economy in the world is heavily dependent on our having been a member of the EEC/EU for the past 40 years.  Without a support system like that, it will rapidly slide down the league table.  Currently, our GDP is only $0.16 trillion ahead of France, $0.75 trillion ahead of Brazil and $0.86 trillion ahead of Italy.  Germany's GDP is some $0.7 trillion ahead of ours.

As for Farage, I tend to regard reality as other than that which he says.

[Jack Knave]

how come you and the 'brilliant' Nigel didn't notice that that was not happening. It is also not what the Leave campaign said so your view here is wrong, irrelevant and shows Nigel up to be an incompetent.

First of all Nigel and UKIP did see all this outcome as it was talked about months ago on their site. Secondly some official twatish organisation gave the Leave campaign to those wankers Vote.Leave, (not Farage and Leave.EU) so using them as the official stance on the EU is bogus. The whole thing has been a farce, but the outcome of leave will send hope and further referendums across the EU member states.