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Re: More finds from Egypt (Where else?)
« Reply #250 on: September 23, 2019, 04:22:45 PM »
Hi Anchorman , I have a question ,
Are there any examples of tube drill cores with a continuos helical cut marks showing drillilling techniques of rotation in one direction ?

I'm more interested in how they did it , not why or who for

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Off the top of my head, U'd say that was a technology too far; mainly because the only metals at their disposal were copper and bronze, niether of which would be strong enough to act as srill bits for most stone. Iron only started filtering into Egypt in any quantity from the first millenium onwards.
I'll ask around, though.
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« Reply #251 on: September 24, 2019, 09:42:19 AM »
   

Off the top of my head, U'd say that was a technology too far; mainly because the only metals at their disposal were copper and bronze, niether of which would be strong enough to act as srill bits for most stone. Iron only started filtering into Egypt in any quantity from the first millenium onwards.
I'll ask around, though.
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« Reply #252 on: September 24, 2019, 10:12:31 AM »
thanks pal 👍
   

There are a few academic papers on AE tech (as well as drivel from pyramidiots); but here's one you might find relevent.
https://www.jstor.org/stable/2842001?seq=1#page_scan_tab_contents
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« Reply #253 on: September 24, 2019, 10:30:29 AM »
   

There are a few academic papers on AE tech (as well as drivel from pyramidiots); but here's one you might find relevent.
https://www.jstor.org/stable/2842001?seq=1#page_scan_tab_contents
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Unfortunately I don't have the facility to look at all that at the moment
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Re: More finds from Egypt (Where else?)
« Reply #254 on: September 24, 2019, 05:33:11 PM »
   

Off the top of my head, U'd say that was a technology too far; mainly because the only metals at their disposal were copper and bronze, niether of which would be strong enough to act as srill bits for most stone. Iron only started filtering into Egypt in any quantity from the first millenium onwards.
I'll ask around, though.

Lots of it (and steel) around centuries before that in the Americas, though (according to the Book of Mormon :) )

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Re: More finds from Egypt (Where else?)
« Reply #255 on: September 24, 2019, 07:35:05 PM »
Lots of it (and steel) around centuries before that in the Americas, though (according to the Book of Mormon :) )
     


Yeah, but...yeah but....
All dat steel an' stuff wuz probably trampled underground by dem elephants, innit?
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« Reply #257 on: October 07, 2019, 08:59:46 AM »
      An example of what we're up against.
A report on the latest arrests for illegal digging, and confiscated artefacts.
This is only one report.
Literally thousands of illegal items are found and put on the illegal antiquities market every year; sold to unscrupulous dealers and end up in private collections or even major museums.
As an example, last week, America handed over a superb gilded coffin of a priest which had been smuggled out of Egypt in the 1970's.
I don't particularly object to the sale of antiquities;
As long as the items are studied in situ, documented and researched, and their locations in their new home well known, I can live with that.
In any other country, this kind of thing would be a national scandal....but Egypt has so much wealth of archaeology that the world seems to turn its back and look the other way.
https://www.egypttoday.com/Article/1/75528/Pics-Gang-arrested-with-193-statues-sarcophagus-in-Giza?fbclid=IwAR2Ze-Yr9DAZZ507o6oDxqVITxtdhEIhDE5fFjGFbKkbw0rDRRlQ-eTuNeE

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« Reply #258 on: October 10, 2019, 10:21:30 AM »
Warning; this article contains references to Zahi Hawass.....
As I type this, Hawass is announcing a find in the Valley of the Kings - that part known as the 'West Valley', which contains the tombs of Amenhotep III ansd  Ay, amongst others. The tomb of Ay was originally started as Tutankhamun's, but he was laide in a much smaller, less ornate resting place, and his successor ended up using the tomb himself.
Hawass claims Tutankhamun's widow, Ankhesenamun 'must' be there, and he has excavated in the area fior several years trying to find it.
(Many Egyptologists argue that we already have the lady's mummy as an unidentified "KV21a" )
However, Hawass hass unearthed a workers' settlement - huts where workers working on tombs camped and stored tools, or embalmers worked outside tombs, far from habitation. If this is so, it indicates the presence of an as yet undiscovered royal tomb in the near area.
Watch this space.
https://m.facebook.com/luxortimesmagazine/photos/a.172787962907723/1157590764427433/?type=3&refid=17&_ft_=mf_story_key.1157590791094097%3Atop_level_post_id.1157590791094097%3Atl_objid.1157590791094097%3Acontent_owner_id_new.172787876241065%3Athrowback_story_fbid.1157590791094097%3Apage_id.172787876241065%3Aphoto_id.1157590764427433%3Astory_location.4%3Astory_attachment_style.photo%3Apage_insights.%7B%22172787876241065%22%3A%7B%22page_id%22%3A172787876241065%2C%22actor_id%22%3A172787876241065%2C%22dm%22%3A%7B%22isShare%22%3A0%2C%22originalPostOwnerID%22%3A0%7D%2C%22psn%22%3A%22EntStatusCreationStory%22%2C%22post_context%22%3A%7B%22object_fbtype%22%3A266%2C%22publish_time%22%3A1570695365%2C%22story_name%22%3A%22EntStatusCreationStory%22%2C%22story_fbid%22%3A%5B1157590791094097%5D%7D%2C%22role%22%3A1%2C%22sl%22%3A4%2C%22targets%22%3A%5B%7B%22actor_id%22%3A172787876241065%2C%22page_id%22%3A172787876241065%2C%22post_id%22%3A1157590791094097%2C%22role%22%3A1%2C%22share_id%22%3A0%7D%5D%7D%2C%22112384738789408%22%3A%7B%22page_id%22%3A112384738789408%2C%22actor_id%22%3A172787876241065%2C%22dm%22%3A%7B%22isShare%22%3A0%2C%22originalPostOwnerID%22%3A0%7D%2C%22psn%22%3A%22EntStatusCreationStory%22%2C%22role%22%3A16%2C%22sl%22%3A4%7D%7D%3Athid.172787876241065%3A306061129499414%3A2%3A0%3A1572591599%3A-8048377807866501364&__tn__=EH-R
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Re: More finds from Egypt (Where else?)
« Reply #259 on: October 10, 2019, 12:31:38 PM »
 The valley's going to be busy.
Hawass - under the auspices of the Department of Antiquities - announces not one, but two major expeditions and some startling results, promising some exciting things to come.
https://see.news/funeral-furniture-manufacture-workshops-discovered-in-apes-valley/?fbclid=IwAR0wZqLHkmXGtFcR_0K5m4-VoJSimUMQGb85dIq2ylwtAXb5kwpsPQuLj54
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« Reply #260 on: October 12, 2019, 02:47:46 PM »
The valley's going to be busy.
Hawass - under the auspices of the Department of Antiquities - announces not one, but two major expeditions and some startling results, promising some exciting things to come.
https://see.news/funeral-furniture-manufacture-workshops-discovered-in-apes-valley/?fbclid=IwAR0wZqLHkmXGtFcR_0K5m4-VoJSimUMQGb85dIq2ylwtAXb5kwpsPQuLj54
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when I read what you write on here I'm reminded of the dog who looks at the pointing finger rather than what the finger is pointing at  ::)

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Re: More finds from Egypt (Where else?)
« Reply #261 on: October 14, 2019, 09:12:53 AM »
 How the other half died.
A good blog from a respected source, on the findings at the latest burial site found at Saqqara.
This site gives an insight into not only burial practice, but, through studies, the life, health and to some extent, religion, of the working class in Late and Ptolemaic Egypt.
https://khentiamentiu.blogspot.com/2019/10/cemetery-of-poor-discovered-south-of.html?spref=fb&fbclid=IwAR2rHFCSyhfcXhwmnfYT3nsZDFq9FxbW0UfeUBHKRJz42RJVznrhGH3_N1Y
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« Reply #262 on: October 15, 2019, 04:36:43 PM »
 Some pics from the latest find at South Assasif, Luxor, where a cache of at least 20 coffins, intact with undisturbed mummies, has been found.
Great images of surviving colours.
https://see.news/antiquities-ministry-releases-images-of-colored-coffins-found-at-luxor/?fbclid=IwAR3pvF5Hf67MAKkJ3axWs6NHCoJ5Cd2UTM2Xtqvq8f9detWsI69T5Nf5MK4
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« Reply #263 on: October 16, 2019, 04:29:23 PM »
Some pics from the latest find at South Assasif, Luxor, where a cache of at least 20 coffins, intact with undisturbed mummies, has been found.
Great images of surviving colours.
https://see.news/antiquities-ministry-releases-images-of-colored-coffins-found-at-luxor/?fbclid=IwAR3pvF5Hf67MAKkJ3axWs6NHCoJ5Cd2UTM2Xtqvq8f9detWsI69T5Nf5MK4

That is quite amazing

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« Reply #264 on: October 16, 2019, 04:37:38 PM »
Incredible and the coffins seem to be in such good condition.

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« Reply #265 on: October 19, 2019, 09:25:17 PM »
The latest extraordinary pics from the new cache tomb near Luxor, plus a statement from the Egyptian department of Antiquities.
The English isn't great, but the images are superb.
http://luxortimes.com/2019/10/dozens-of-intact-ancient-egyptian-coffins-and-mummies-discovered-in-luxor/
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Re: More finds from Egypt (Where else?)
« Reply #267 on: November 06, 2019, 01:38:40 PM »
Interesting excavation
s from the Roman Period at Saqqara
https://www.egyptindependent.com/team-excavates-first-roman-catacomb-tomb-discovered-in-saqqara/?fbclid=IwAR2oe2LR3EMSn7CVUneUWYbv8JUlDrvASFPc4M8XWpmX4JHhepberKw8eS8

Off topic for this thread. re my post #52 in LR's thread "Using the Bible as an excuse for bigotry" (Christian topic), I'd welcome some input from your expert knowledge on the historical evidence for the references in Isaiah and Ezra about King Cyrus, and his role in the liberation of the Jews from Babylon, and his promoting the rebuilding of the Jerusalem temple. Both prophets speak of Cyrus in the most glowing terms - "Messiah" - especially since he was a pagan king.

Off topic for that thread too, but it makes a change from repeated mantra such as "The god of the bible is evil".
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« Reply #268 on: November 13, 2019, 10:10:07 AM »
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« Reply #269 on: November 16, 2019, 10:38:22 AM »
Nice pics from the latest find from 'Roman Egypt' at Saqqara
This shows the influence of Hellenistic religion and thought combined with native Egyptian.
Judging by the name, the deceased was Egyptian with pretentions of Hellenism¬!
https://www.livescience.com/ancient-egypt-catacomb-mummies-carvings.html?fbclid=IwAR0y1ORXF0nRQeEvgCoOeCYq5SnWklfoigBcKh_Sg2w69e8feNTJkn_jRUI
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« Reply #270 on: November 23, 2019, 03:12:58 PM »
 Saqqara has yielded literally millions of animal mummies.
So many that some of the catacombs have simply been resealed and left unexplored.
Yet news today of a haul of statues of cats, ibis, dogs, and others, as well as coffined animal mummies galore.
Good pics.
https://see.news/details-of-new-archaeological-discovery-in-saqqara-photos/?fbclid=IwAR2hdegel9MCUUooKvsqmcgW503m6ySasZaGopT5Q63KtbuP7_h9kTY2xpk
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« Reply #271 on: November 25, 2019, 06:22:51 PM »
I just found this on MSN and thought of you, you've already mentioned some (Saqqara) but not all. Fascinating!

https://www.msn.com/en-xl/news/other/rare-cache-of-mummified-animals-unveiled-in-egypt/ar-BBXe5BO
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« Reply #272 on: November 25, 2019, 06:30:50 PM »
I just found this on MSN and thought of you, you've already mentioned some (Saqqara) but not all. Fascinating!

https://www.msn.com/en-xl/news/other/rare-cache-of-mummified-animals-unveiled-in-egypt/ar-BBXe5BO
   


Yep.
Saqqara never seems to disappoint, and this latest find is pretty much par for the course.
Of course, we have umpteen stues, coffins and literally millions of mummified animals, but these lion cubs are virtually unique.
The question of where they, and the countless other animals, came from, is still unanswered.
Given the sheer quantity of mummies (so much that a steamship loaded with mummified cats landed in Liverrpool, and the 'cargo' was used as fertiliser), there had to be industrialised farming of cats, ibis, baboons, etc on a scale never seen before or since.
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« Reply #273 on: November 25, 2019, 06:35:26 PM »
And....... Liverpool farming with that antique Egyptian touch..... https://blog.liverpoolmuseums.org.uk/2011/06/a-mummy-cats-tale/
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« Reply #274 on: November 27, 2019, 01:53:27 PM »
     You can tell the dig season's up and running.
Three fine coffins excavated from an already known tomb courtyard at Luxor.
Nice pics.
http://luxortimes.com/2019/11/french-archaeologists-unearth-ancient-egyptian-wooden-coffins/?fbclid=IwAR1rNtWkrgGS_xjQ3uuiMzAX8NR1vgL5vY4li4brORZ-qxm42rhcXRMBF2Y
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